New Z Book?

Mr.F

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Not so new Z Book?

Available via our Amazon connection:

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Just click above to order - excellent introductory price.
 
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Albrecht

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I know this is basically an MJP Eastern Auto trade thread, but...........

If you accept positive ( approving ) responses, then I hope that you will too accept negative ( disapproving ) responses (?).


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This book is almost two years old now. I paid £24.99 for it when it first came out, and I must say that it impressed me with the sheer scale of mistakes, bad information, poor historical research and literal copying of text from previous Z-related books. It must be something of a record-setter in that respect.

Books written on the subject of 'Z history' written twenty or even ten years ago might well have some ( feeble ) excuses for the amount of bad information and poor research that they contain - but a book written within the last five years ( with all the benefits of t'internet, and the reference value of mistakes that were made before....... ) really has no excuse.

This book is ( in my opinion ) a complete waste of time, ( my! ) money, paper and printing ink.



Apart from that it is absolutely wonderful. :thumbs:

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Mr.F

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Amazon have a fine facility for reviews (good and bad) of all products, so I won't get upset about opinions on books here.
I can't (and didn't) comment on the book as I've not seen a copy - simply offering it as a Z related product which has just popped up on the Amazon lists.
 

ZHead

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Albrecht said:
This book is almost two years old now. I paid £24.99 for it when it first came out

Me too -bought it at an automotive show

This book is ( in my opinion ) a complete waste of time, ( my! ) money, paper and printing ink.

I accept it has many many mistakes but it has nice pictures ;)

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Albrecht

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ZHead said:
I accept it has many many mistakes but it has nice pictures ;)

Well, I would advise you to be very careful when reading the captions to some of those pictures.

Case in point: Page 123 has two pictures of a red painted, late-ish facelifted Japanese market Fairlady Z-L ( probably around a 1974/75 build date, with the rear end treatment seen on Export market '260Z' models ). This car is highly modified, and features a mixture of home market and export USA/Canada market detailing ( notice the rear marker lights and 'Datsun' emblems ). It is also fitted with a very rare 'LY' Crossflow head conversion, and other rare parts - although the engine bay is not shown in the photos.

Evanow's picture caption reads thus:

"Among the intelligentZia ( sic ), an original Fairlady Z432 or Z432-R from the Japanese market ranks among the most desirable classix Zs. Total production was 420, built from 1969-1973, with a 2.0 liter engine that produced 160 horsepower. The LY-designated engine was a high revving motor, with four valves per cylinder and three carburettors. The R model was for racing pruposes, and was much lighter with a fiberglass hood, Plexiglas ( sic ) side and rea windows, lightweight bucket seats, and other R-dedicated components. These cars are rare and very desirable."

What a cock up. First of all he mis-identifies the car in the pictures as a Fairlady Z432 ( it isn't ) and then he compounds the mistake by stating that the Z432 had an 'LY' engine ( when it actually had an S20 ). He then goes on to pile insult on top of injury, stating that the 'LY' had four valves per cylinder ( when the 'LY' was an SOHC 2-valve per cylinder design ) - giving data for the S20 in place of the 'LY'.

Sorry, but even if we try to be as polite as possible that ranks as a total shambles.

Written text does not fare much better either. Page 64 ( titled "What's in a name? Part 1" - ostensibly a precis of early Datsun / Nissan company history ) contains no fewer than EIGHT fundamental errors - the majority of them copied verbatim from Colin Shipway's "Essential Datsun Z: 240Z to 280ZX", which Evanow laughably can't even identify properly ( he calls it "Essentially....." ).

Copied mistakes from an old book that is itself ill-conceived, badly researched and poorly edited, and can't even get the title of the book right when namechecking it? Must be Mr Pete Evanow!

Sorry, but that - by any stretch of the imagination - is indicative of an author who knows next to nothing about his chosen subject, and a publisher that doesn't even realise it.

Verdict: Not fit for purpose. Case closed.
 

SeanDezart

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It still begs the question - does the occidental world need a complete, concise and above all accurate book about S30 ?

Supplementary question : who should / could write such thing ?
 

datsun dave

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SeanDezart said:
It still begs the question - does the occidental world need a complete, concise and above all accurate book about S30 ?

Supplementary question : who should / could write such thing ?

There is only 1 person with the right infomation :bow:
 

Mr.G

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I'd love to see the Count on Mastermind, he would wipe the floor with his chosen specialised subject and I think he'd do pretty well in the general knowledge section too.

And as for a book, it would be an instant hit.
 

ZHead

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An authoritative and accurate book would sell very well ........ any takers for writing such a tome ???? You know we all want it, chapter and verse, minutiae, the whole nine yards set straight :thumbs: :bow:
 

SeanDezart

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The best Toyota 200GT book costs (if you can find it) £140, I'd buy an S30 book for £100 if it was as good, well-researched and loaded with extraodinary picyures, never seen before !

And I'll repeat, I'd stake some money up front to help bring it to fruition.

There is a big market out there for such a book, written in English. Could also have Japanese text...
 
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