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[spannerboy]

should have said 'shouldn't not should!

I don't see what you'd gain from some one having a look over as you've seen what's been done? I guess it just depends on what you want to do with it now?

If you want strong money for it, it could be worth having the paint and bits done?

It's nor what I would gain . Because to be fair you would find more faults with it than I ever would , but by sparing a few hours of your time you would achieve your objective , to fairly scrutinise a vehicle for sale for a prospective purchaser , but I guess that's not realy what it is all about .

 

[Alphabettispaghetti]

The only thing mentioned in this thread was the replacement 3/4, which you've now found. If people were more aware of the various specs of these cars in the first place it might have been something you spotted before buying it? Its only being discussed on a club thread, not somewhere like piston heads where it would then come up in google searches etc. Also not in a negative way either, it seems to have all the other early car bits there and in decent condition.

 

[spannerboy]

The only thing mentioned in this thread was the replacement 3/4, which you've now found. If people were more aware of the various specs of these cars in the first place it might have been something you spotted before buying it? Its only being discussed on a club thread, not somewhere like piston heads where it would then come up in google searches etc. Also not in a negative way either, it seems to have all the other early car bits there and in decent condition.

You are missing the point , your objective was to scrutinise it, was it not ? Although you contacted me with a view to buying it did you not ?

 

[spannerboy]

I have also not said anywhere it has had a replacement panel , I just said it looks to have had something , so you are not quoting me correctly , plus tbh you once again narked me by texting me to say you e found the repair , why didn't you just be man and text me what you realy meant , you thought I was wrong and you were right

 

[morbias]

Well does it or does it not have a vent on one side and not the other? Even if it does, if the repair has been done properly then it's not the end of the world.

 

[spannerboy]

Well does it or does it not have a vent on one side and not the other? Even if it does, if the repair has been done properly then it's not the end of the world.

Yes it does , that's not my issue , I love the car and tbh I don't care if it sells or not now , but you guys have tainted my views of your website , not my car . In my opinion the objective of these threads is to publicly display your knowledge in a needy look at me fashion and publicly pic holes in sales car . If one of you were a true z fan you would want to come look at my car for potential purchasers so you could guide them , and possibly welcome them into your select club, but that's not what this realy about

 

[morbias]

Yes it does , that's not my issue

Then I honestly don't see how you can dispute the fact it has had a replacement panel fitted. Whether you've said it or not, it has one, end of story.

As much as you would like to think of this as the land of beards and elbow pads I think you are maybe missing the fact that we are actually just like yourself; car guys that like talking about cars.

You don't seem to like the fact we are talking about things on your car that aren't original - if that's so then maybe you shouldn't go advertising it as an original car.

If it makes you feel better, the things 'wrong' with your car would probably fill a couple of paragraphs. If I were to list the things 'wrong' with my car then I would easily hit the character limit of this post.

IMO the only factor here that would be detrimental to the selling of your car is you coming onto a car club's discussion forum and telling everyone they shouldn't discuss your car unless they are ready to say how original it all is when it clearly isn't.

 

[spannerboy]

I'm not disputing anything , once again you see just trying tomorrow you right and me wrong , you know nothing about the car , you are fitting there duscussingbit it like the anoraks you are , to be fair your lower in my opinions thang train spotters at the moment ,what I am disputing is many criticisms have been made , I'm willing to pay one of you your costs to come appraise or fairly for prospective buyers , which you all tell me is your aim , I will in no way benefit , I'm fact it will cost me ,

 

[morbias]

What exactly are you (not?) disputing?

If you're not willing to discuss your car on here then I don't know how you expect to get anyone to actually come and see it.

Is anyone likely to be willing to travel to see a car that you won't tell them about? Unlikely.

The way I see it, there has been interest in your car (this thread is evidence of that) and your reaction was to come on here, get butthurt that your car isn't the gem you thought it was and proceed to slag off the club and its members. Seriously, good luck selling your car to any club members (who, in case you hadn't realised, are your main potential customers)

 

[gazc130]

Hi Spannerboy, I think the car looks great, I love the patina. At the end of the day it's a 40 year old Datsun, so of course its had work and repairs in the past. I agree that some members of the forum seem to take these old cars way to seriously, but let me tell you know the person who buys your car won't be bothered about the "anoraks" assessment, they'll just love their funky old datty!

I was surprised at the judgement and dissection of my car a 1976 Datsun 280z. I thought this was a club for enthusiasts, but some members would rather do an autopsy. It's a funny old world!

Don't be disheartened, its a funky car and so what if it has a different panel, its hardly the end of the world!

 

[Rob Gaskin]

Simon, we should take your comments 'on board' about negativity because that's important it we want to attract new members. You are not the first to comment in this way. However I suspect most motor clubs are the same if they specialise in one 'Marque' and have members who are very knowlegible on these cars.

I actually think that your car is not being ripped apart but constructively appraised and it appears to be coming out quite well.

People like Albrecht (there aren't many who know so much) wouldn't be interested in your car if it was a 'run of the mill' rusty 240Z on ebay. Where he does take an interest in such cases it's normally to warn people off.

IMO this Thread has done your car more good than harm.

 

[spannerboy]

What exactly are you (not?) disputing?

If you're not willing to discuss your car on here then I don't know how you expect to get anyone to actually come and see it.

Is anyone likely to be willing to travel to see a car that you won't tell them about? Unlikely.

The way I see it, there has been interest in your car (this thread is evidence of that) and your reaction was to come on here, get butthurt that your car isn't the gem you thought it was and proceed to slag off the club and its members. Seriously, good luck selling your car to any club members (who, in case you hadn't realised, are your main potential customers)

Like I said my problem is the negativity this forum oozes.my car is no longer for sale,I have decided to keep it.

You in particular are a point scorer by trying to justify the thread with the has it hasnt it aspect.

I have nothing to hide,I suggest you all move over to chat now as this thread is redundant as its no longer for sale,I will post the pics and you can disect to your hearts content,

Thank you Gaz,you are the first human I have encountered on this thread.

 

[spannerboy]

Simon, we should take your comments 'on board' about negativity because that's important it we want to attract new members. You are not the first to comment in this way. However I suspect most motor clubs are the same if they specialise in one 'Marque' and have members who are very knowlegible on these cars.

I actually think that your car is not being ripped apart but constructively appraised and it appears to be coming out quite well.

People like Albrecht (there aren't many who know so much) wouldn't be interested in your car if it was a 'run of the mill' rusty 240Z on ebay. Where he does take an interest in such cases it's normally to warn people off.

IMO this Thread has done your car more good than harm.

To be fair Rob I enjoyed my time talking to you guys immensely at the NEC,I have been an avid user of many forums over the last decade,moderating and advising on many tech forums to help the average person,just google my useername it is the same on all forums.

I am more than happy to share my knowledge and on numerous occassions gone to appraise cars for people F.O.C ,as I am an enthusiast first and a business man second,but never have I encountered what I have had here.

Like I said,my problem is this forums knee jerk reaction is to criticise in here,not praise another good car arriving in general chat,alot of people on here have just tried point scoring as well,Morbias and franky being 2 .I may have misjudged Albrecht ,but to be fair he comes across as very condescending and more effective than a Mogadon.

 

[morbias]

Like I said my problem is the negativity this forum oozes.my car is no longer for sale,I have decided to keep it.

You in particular are a point scorer by trying to justify the thread with the has it hasnt it aspect.

lol

I was actually trying to help you not come across as a knee-jerk idiot.

Congratulations on your incredible sales technique.

 

[spannerboy]

lol

I was actually trying to help you not come across as a knee-jerk idiot.

Congratulations on your incredible sales technique.

you have a funny way of showing it.thank you for your sarcasm,further endearing me to this forum .

 

[gazc130]

I agree with Spannerboy, he's put his car out there, he's not asking silly money, infact it seems really good value. Classic cars as i've said before are supposed to be about fun and owners are generally enthusiastic. What more dedicated place can you have to discuss classic cars than an a dedicated enthusiasts forum.

The last 3 or 4 cars I've seen come up on the forum have been torn apart by some very "knowledgeable" but bloody miserable members and now we get morbias putting up the stupid little vid.

My point: Come on guys live and let live otherwise as you've done with spanner boy you'll just **** people off.... I'm sure that's not the objective of this forum or is it just the ego's have to show their superior knowledge and authority. All said and done Datsun z cars were just cheap mass produced budget sports cars that rotted like the clappers and have cheap interiors, they ain't life and death!

So get some perspective you miseries!

 

[morbias]

Look, I originally came into this thread wanting to find out about the car but anyone who asked questions ended up receiving digs and abuse which I take issue with. I don't give a **** about 'scoring points' or whatever the whole disagreement was, I only want to find out about the car.

Take a look at the new thread where pictures and discussion are forthcoming and you might see a different attitude from everyone.

 

[datsfun]

IAll said and done Datsun z cars were just cheap mass produced budget sports cars that rotted like the clappers and have cheap interiors, they ain't life and death!

!

Is that why you went out and bought one after waiting all these years .? :lol:

 

[Alphabettispaghetti]

I agree with Spannerboy, he's put his car out there, he's not asking silly money, infact it seems really good value. Classic cars as i've said before are supposed to be about fun and owners are generally enthusiastic. What more dedicated place can you have to discuss classic cars than an a dedicated enthusiasts forum.

The last 3 or 4 cars I've seen come up on the forum have been torn apart by some very "knowledgeable" but bloody miserable members and now we get morbias putting up the stupid little vid.

My point: Come on guys live and let live otherwise as you've done with spanner boy you'll just **** people off.... I'm sure that's not the objective of this forum or is it just the ego's have to show their superior knowledge and authority. All said and done Datsun z cars were just cheap mass produced budget sports cars that rotted like the clappers and have cheap interiors, they ain't life and death!

So get some perspective you miseries!

How are you getting on with your new import?

What cars from the late 60's early 70's didn't rot? I'm sure when I reach 42 i'll have a few bits that might need cutting off from years of abuse

 

[gazc130]

How are you getting on with your new import?

What cars from the late 60's early 70's didn't rot? I'm sure when I reach 42 i'll have a few bits that might need cutting off from years of abuse

Hi Franky,

The car was delivered on monday night, a non runner and tatty. I've had a good look around it and started work.

It has some localised rot, a 2" hole under the battery tray and a hole beside the drivers side headlamp bowl on the inner wing, the rest of the structure looks in great condition... Phew!

It's not run for 20 years, so I drained the varnish out of the fuel tank, removed the fuel pump which was completely gummed up, cleaned it out, a new fuel filter and plugs and it started right up, it's not running perfectly and wont rev, but i'll get around to that this week.

The rad has been damaged by the transport company and was leaking that's now been repaired, the water pump was completely shot and the centre box on the exhaust has cracked, so I've welded that up.

I've replaced the clutch slave and master cylinder as well as the flexi, and will rebuild the brakes this week.

Hopefully it will be drivable by next weekend.

I've very pleased with what i've bought and can certainly pull it back and make it a nice useable car.