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Discussion in 'New to the website!' started by CRAIG2001, Apr 16, 2019.

  1. datsfun

    datsfun
    Z Club Member

    Let's assume one has the correct registration papers - what import taxes , VAT, fees apply typically ?
     
  2. chrisvega

    chrisvega
    Z Club Member

    Controle Technique required before registration ?
     
  3. jonbills

    jonbills
    ZClub Administrator
    Staff Member Moderator

    Is the problem with this car that it wasn't put on the Nova database when it was imported? If so, could one send it on a boat around the IOW and import it now?
     
  4. moggy240

    moggy240 INSURANCE VALUATIONS OFFICER Staff Member Moderator

    Was the car imported before the nova system started.
     
  5. chrisvega

    chrisvega
    Z Club Member

    There has always been certification of some kind required to prove import and duty/vat paid and accompany first registrations.
    NOVA online system has been in use for 5 or 6 years now and before that c386 certificates were issued by HMRC.
     
  6. SeanDezart

    SeanDezart
    Z Club Member
    Official Trader

    Any car coming into Europe must have had the VAT paid. This can be done locally by having the car inspected, assessed (supply all info including price guide, insurance estimation, invoice etc, pay the dues and receive your 846A certificate.

    Apply via the FFVE for a certificat of registration.

    Contrôle technique necessary to be registered.

    Very time consuming Chris and not to be repeated regularly in order to avoid undue inland revenue attention.

    Real Europe doesn't recognise the UKs' NOVA system simply because they is no proof of VAT payment - no amount mentioned on some invoice with the cars' VIN to associate a payment against a specific car.
     
  7. datsfun

    datsfun
    Z Club Member

    Precisely, within single market it should not matter where the import VAT has been paid. The fact that a car has been allocated a local EU log book should suffice in terms of evidence that import VAT and any other duties have been levied and settled upon entry into the EU28


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    Real Europe...FFS. :p

    The above is a great example when the practical application of the principle does not work and each real European country comes up with its own interpretation of the rules.

    Question I asked above- what are the taxes applicable to importing a used car into France please ?

    I nearly fainted when I found out how the Portuguese tax their imports:EXTRAeek:
     
  8. SeanDezart

    SeanDezart
    Z Club Member
    Official Trader

    Precisely, within single market it should not matter where the import VAT has been paid. The fact that a car has been allocated a local EU log book should suffice in terms of evidence that import VAT and any other duties have been levied and settled upon entry into the EU28.

    In France, you're still obliged to have proof that the VAT has been paid (if a non-EEC title OR isn't applicable...ie a car being imported from a EEC country with an EEC registration doc. Importing a USA-registered car into France will need proof of the VAT paid.

    That's why s/h Portugeuse cars in that market are so expensive and why some manufacturers installed their own factories there.
     
  9. chrisvega

    chrisvega
    Z Club Member

    Whilst the NOVA document may not list the import VAT paid separately it acts as confirmation/peace of mind to any buyer it has been paid assuming the car does not have a UK/EU log book. There is a separate document raised through the HMRC CHIEF system which shows the purchase invoice figures and import VAT paid which is accepted by ALL other EC countries as definitive proof. We do have a single market after all, hopefully not for much longer though :D
     
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  10. SeanDezart

    SeanDezart
    Z Club Member
    Official Trader

    When I was obliged to import a car with a NOVA form, I was 'reliably' informed that "that was all the paperwork to be had"...it was a nightmare and the system has changed now so cannot be repeated.

    I would only ever register a car here with either a UK reg number or definitive proof of the VAT being paid with a definite preference for the former to save a LOT of time and effort.
     
  11. chrisvega

    chrisvega
    Z Club Member

    Agreed and well done for not rising to my Brexit bait, good to see 'Tenno' has you under control at last :EXTRAlol:
     
  12. CRAIG2001

    CRAIG2001
    Z Club Member

    Apparently i was not getting notifications on this thread getting responses.

    So there is some good news, I jumped through some hoops but i officially have a NOVA certificate for the car.

    Now i only need to fill out the registration form and the car due to age is exempt of all conformity checks.

    The only issue i have to contend with is that i don't have the original car documents so require a dating letter.
    I will pay the subscription to the club of course i just wonder if anyone can confirm is this something the club can help with?
     
  13. uk66fastback

    uk66fastback
    Z Club Member

    Nice to see this thread updated. Any pics of the car - I presume it's here now? Be interested to see some ...
     
  14. datsfun

    datsfun
    Z Club Member

    Good news on Nova. I will be surprised if anyone in this club or for that reason any other UK based club can assist. This is essential a South Africa only model and I am afraid you need to focus your attention to those shores if you want more insight.

    My 10pEXTRA;)
     
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  15. CRAIG2001

    CRAIG2001
    Z Club Member

    Well I know dating letters are done using the vin numbers which i do have.
    I also am aware the vin number would have been tagged when the car was built in japan as it was sent partially assembled to south africa.

    So i would assume it no different to dating a 240z imported from japan which i have seen done.

    I do have some pics but of course the car is completely disassembled for refurbishing lol
     
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