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STEVE BURNS
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Albrecht
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OK, that's fair enough. There are many aspects to all this and each individual's situation, needs and means are different anyway. However, I reckon there are certain inescapable truths that hold fast in different contexts.
jonbills said:
There aren't many similar cars to the white MZR Roadsports 240Z for sale in the UK at the moment. Do you know of any? Are we saying we can directly compare fresh off the boat LHD resto projects to it? A similar age car, a fresh sight-unseen import HLS30 240Z with no crash repairs is - I reckon - now looking to be north of 10k GBP, yes? I don't think you could turn that into the equivalent of the MZR Roadsports car for anything like the 13k difference, let alone the time and effort involved.
I know of at least a couple of pristine LHD 240Zs that have been sold in the UK in the last year or so that have been way over the 23k for this car. Each car should be viewed on a case-by-case basis of course, but to my knowledge it's a reality. And I don't know of many similar condition/spec RHD cars that are up for grabs (and that aren't scams...) at the moment.
jonbills said:
As I've pointed out elsewhere, there are plenty of potential buyers in the market who just want to step into a good, finished car that's ready to go. Look at the first post of this thread, for example. The original poster would be WELL advised to take the MZR Roadsports car as a serious proposition, and not least because it's practically on his doorstep. The spec seems to match what he's looking for pretty closely, and he's already up for LHD. It seems a no-brainer for me. A dating agency would put the two of them together as potential marriage material.
I find the early Z scene in the UK so strange sometimes. Point out the (obvious!) badly repaired crash damage on a car that's for sale - even point out an obvious RINGER that's being passed off - and you get called divisive, disruptive and a "negative influence". Point out what is clearly a good car and all you get is "not worth that" and "I could build it for less" type comments. Hard to fathom.
SeanDezart
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Yup.
And to answer Datsfun's question - I know of several finished LHD Zs sold for considerably more than £25k at the time and the owners are thrilled with them. At least two are in our latest club calender and other less specced and finished cars are changing hands...when they rarely come up for sale here at around the £20k mark.
It seems to sink into the Channel that which I repeat - there is a bigger and ever increasing LHD market demand for good 'step-into' Zs - there was a green Z brought in to your country from Eastern Europe not long agao - there is a poor supply of good cars in the UK....and across Europe for that matter.
I don't understand why some peeps have a real adversion to LHD
Sure...nice to have an original UK RHD but that's a very rare car and then not the car you would be advised to pull apart and mod
So for me original rust free metal is the single most important aspect, it's perfectly placed to mod and LHD is a better place to sit, I actually prefer it....great for kerb crawling
Sure...nice to have an original UK RHD but that's a very rare car and then not the car you would be advised to pull apart and mod
So for me original rust free metal is the single most important aspect, it's perfectly placed to mod and LHD is a better place to sit, I actually prefer it....great for kerb crawling
datsfun
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Appreciate your reply. So strong possibility that this car may end up in Europe given that its in the "European market price range" too.
Is white the most popular shade ( with newly restored/painted cars) followed by Orange ?
SeanDezart
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No, just as many 'not worth it' LHD cars have been sold within the UK whether they were geograpgically within the UK or elsewhere and I include the USA in that.
If everyone's opinion is only based upon the quality of cars 'PUBLICLY' advertised, it's not surprising that the z club's forum members can't count beyond £15k...and only that for a car which allows them to take a car-park ticket through the 'correct' window.
Colours are like moods - they swing. Orange was popular, white now - it was dark blue before for obvious reasons.....red's always fashionable.....and then you've got the fringe
sushisushi
Active Forum User
I quite like the idea of an LHD as a z outside as I think it would make it feel even more exotic to drive after getting out of my German hot hatch.
My BMW would destroy any standard Z maybe even a 370. But what I want isn't performance, it's is a special cruiser with character, and for me LHD would only add to that, especially if there's a saving to be had + less rust.
I do think all the classic car market has gone crazy of the last few years with rich people seeing classics (like air cooled 911s) as investment commodities. I do think not all classics are worth the prices being asked, Zs included. Which is why they aren't selling. Sure, there's a few rich people who will pay a premium for an individual car. But most of us know the value of the cash in our pocket.
In the mean time. My hunt goes on!
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My BMW would destroy any standard Z maybe even a 370. But what I want isn't performance, it's is a special cruiser with character, and for me LHD would only add to that, especially if there's a saving to be had + less rust.
I do think all the classic car market has gone crazy of the last few years with rich people seeing classics (like air cooled 911s) as investment commodities. I do think not all classics are worth the prices being asked, Zs included. Which is why they aren't selling. Sure, there's a few rich people who will pay a premium for an individual car. But most of us know the value of the cash in our pocket.
In the mean time. My hunt goes on!
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What model is it?
sushisushi
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Looked at aus but didn't see many? I first saw a Z in Mildura 10 years ago when I was picking grapes!
It's an M135i 8 speed. Pretty boring to be honest.
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It's an M135i 8 speed. Pretty boring to be honest.
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I think 'racer' had one and said the same? Sad that a quick sports car from BMW is so uninvolving that's why classics are so good (but not for every journey perhaps):
unlock the door with a key
put key in ignition
pull choke out
tease it into life
fit static seat belts
wind window down a bit
sort heater/demist by moving levers
drive of gently to avoid stalling, change gear slowly (gbox oil cold)
heave on the steering etc etc.
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It's not really a sports car is it, it's just a mini hatch with a big lovely engine!
If you did want a Z to 'destroy' the M135i on the quarter mile, I don't think it's out of reach of an S30 with an L6.
I read the M135i is around 13.5 for the qtr mile, there's a few L6s that go quicker than that.
http://zclub.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21665
If you did want a Z to 'destroy' the M135i on the quarter mile, I don't think it's out of reach of an S30 with an L6.
I read the M135i is around 13.5 for the qtr mile, there's a few L6s that go quicker than that.
http://zclub.net/forum/showthread.php?t=21665
sushisushi
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Yeah I've seen some skyline engined z's. But I'm not actually bothered about it being fast. I just want it to feel "real" if you get my drift.
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Tony 260Z
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Best two things about owning/driving an old Z IMHO....
1) Beautiful looks
2) Feels "real"
Just my two penneth!
