My '76 280z project

[datsun dave]

Arches cutting.

This is going to seem so sexist but I hope I can get my point across.

Scenario:

You find a lovely pure girl in the outback with a beautiful pair of perfectly formed, pert but modestly sized breasts. What a find!

You decided (because you become her owner and master) that she needs big, bulbous boobs that every sex pervert wants to display on Facebook as their girlfriend. She has the op. at your expense and what a sexy looker!

A few years down the line you mature, her boobs don't mean as much to you and there are complications. You and her just wish you had left things as they were.

I'm not a pervert but want to make folks think before they perform an irreversible and unnecessary operation for egotistical reasons.

I love big tits

 

[datsfun]

Rob would you say the same to the guys who are dropping all sorts of engines into these cars from Nissan units right all the way to monster V8's? Just curious as same logic of the cars being classified as historic \ classic by govt must apply?

 

[tel240z]

I love big tits

I love big Tits and she blows well

 

[vipergts]

Datsfun, that's fine - yes it's your car do what you want all I'm trying to get across is that these are classic cars that are registered as historic vehicles and as such are appreciated by the government as worth preserving.

Consider before cutting.

Rob. Historic classification from the Government means nothing


After all an Austin Maxi is also a "Historic"

 

[johnymd]

Why all this big fuss about Historic Tac Clasification? Are any of us really bothered? When I bought my 240z it was not classed as historic but that really didnt bother me at all. If it vlooses its historic status I'm also not bothered. I love the cars because of the cars they are, not just because I can save a little money each year. Surely none of us are that tight that we only buy these car because we can save on road tax.

 

[Dave_Brown]

Yeah, Dave B, Dave Brown is the same, created and account on my laptop, but Tapatalk on my phone seems to have a different profile for me it uses?
Deffo going to drill the old skin off the roof, been told the frp roof skin is made for that purpose.
I love the flared arches/wide rims look, and my rear arches are slightly scabby anyway so would need replacing if I wasn't cutting them out. Nothing wrong with artificial lady curves either lol


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[Dave_Brown]

An observation I've made is a fair few people in the z scene seem to be dead against cutting out the arches, and frown upon people fitting flares and wide wheels. Whereas in the mk1/mk2 escort scene, a large percentage of builds these days have gp4/Tarmac arches and inner tubs fitted and no one bats an eyelid


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[zNathan]

I think it's got something to do with the fact the mk1/mk2 escort took on arches rallying, whereas the Z's didn't.

Personally I think arches look cool. Do what you want though, who gives a **** what other people think.

 

[richiep]

I know I was anti-overfenders above with respect to Phil's car, but that's my opinion related to that specific car.

But generally, I'm pro overfender. They are period correct for the S30 and were factory items or options on certain (JDM) vehicles. They have been used extensively in Japan for decades, it's just internationally we are catching up to the JDM influence - and people with a more purist classic car outlook are "uncomfortable" with them.

I fully expect my next project to have them fitted (although that depends on the base car's shell as I might chicken out depending on arch quality of whatever I acquire!).

 

[datsfun]

Personally I think arches look cool. Do what you want though, who gives a **** what other people think.

Let the oggle at your birds big un's

 

[Alphabettispaghetti]

That's because escorts are just common Ford's

 

[johnymd]

I've been in the S30 scene for quite a while and it does annoy me a little when I see peoples views change as they get older and they try to influence the views of others. In the old days you bought a TR or MG if you were into classic cars and restorations. I bought my first 240z but I was into moding and fast cars that stuck a couple of fingers up at the flat cap brigade. The zed scene was all about moding and not many cars were kept standard.

Build the car as you want to build it and enjoy to the full. That's what I did with my blue one. Remember though, other will have different views and are allowed to express them as they wish on an open forum. I couldn't bring myself to cut off good arches as they are so precious on a UK car but that's just IMO.

 

[Rob Gaskin]

I've been in the S30 scene for quite a while and it does annoy me a little when I see peoples views change as they get older and they try to influence the views of others........... I couldn't bring myself to cut off good arches as they are so precious on a UK car .....

Some of you (not just John) got a bit personal and all I was saying was don't cut out good arches without due consideration. Anyway John are you agreeing with me or not here?

I wear my flat cap with pride.

Just for the record I like the low, wide look but it's food for thought that these ARE rare cars. To compare them with Escorts is fine but I bet most of the retro-fitted arches are to basic Escorts wanting to be Gp4 lookalikes - we don't have 'basic' Zs. Just look how much standard TwinCam and RSs are worth with original bodywork. Escort Mk1 and Mk2 are my era in fact I was taken out in an RS1600 before they were released and also been driven around Boreham by Mick Jones in a Mk1 RS2000. Plus I toured the AVO department when it was in full flow.

It would be more appropriate to consider cutting arches out of E Types, TR6s, Elans, MGCs etc etc - it's never done is it and they are not as rare as our cars.

When owners fitted replica G Noses and sunroofs they thought they were improving their cars. My blue car has headlamp covers and a rear spoiler - I wish it hadn't.

Lee's car (Vipergts) looks fantastic and the good thing is I was able to buy his steel wheels which are in amazing condition, like the shell.

Rob. Historic classification from the Government means nothing


After all an Austin Maxi is also a "Historic"

An Austin Maxi is worthy of Classic/Historic status IMO, they were a clever car for their day. The person I bought my first 240Z off had one of the very first 1500 cars, the lad I rallied with lived on a farm and his dad bought one new - we used it as a tow car when rallying (and slept in it!). My dad had a Maxi predecessor an Austin 1800 bought off Terry Watts ex Imp racer, again a useful car but it under-steered like a ship!

Historic Status:

Policy objective:

The VED exemption is intended to support classic vehicle, which the Government considers are an important part of the nation’s historical heritage. According to research by the Historic Vehicle Research Institute and the Federation of British Historic Vehicles Clubs, in their publication The British Historic Vehicle Movement: A £4 Billion Hobby, the historic car industry employs about 28,000 people in the UK.

John your 7 cars = about £1400 if the government weren't so understanding.

 

[johnymd]

I guess I'm kind of sitting on the fence a little and throwing a few water bombs at people on both sides . I like my blue car but I don't want to try and convince people to do the same. I think it a shame to cut good arches but feel people should be allowed to do just what they want to their cars. What right have I or any of us got to tell others what to do to their cars. There is no governing body and we should not try to be one IMO.

 

[STEVE BURNS]

I think it a shame to cut good arches but feel people should be allowed to do just what they want to their cars. What right have I or any of us got to tell others what to do to their cars. There is no governing body and we should not try to be one IMO.

100% They own it no one else so what they want to do with it is their choice

 

[datsfun]

It would be more appropriate to consider cutting arches out of E Types, TR6s, Elans, MGCs etc etc - it's never done is it and they are not as rare as our cars.

Historic Status:

Policy objective:

The VED exemption is intended to support classic vehicle, which the Government considers are an important part of the nation’s historical heritage. According to research by the Historic Vehicle Research Institute and the Federation of British Historic Vehicles Clubs, in their publication The British Historic Vehicle Movement: A £4 Billion Hobby, the historic car industry employs about 28,000 people in the UK.

John your 7 cars = about £1400 if the government weren't so understanding.

Rob are you reading the historic policy as meaning that if you modify the car, it looses it's heritage and hence VED exemption? I sincerely hope not otherwise more than half of classics would fail the Gaskin test Inc your blue car.

 

[Alphabettispaghetti]

!00% They own it no one else so what they want to do with it is their choice

0% agree?

 

[STEVE BURNS]

0% agree?

oops 100%agree but not with that 0% quote

 

[SKiddell]

Some of you (not just John) got a bit personal and all I was saying was don't cut out good arches without due consideration. Anyway John are you agreeing with me or not here?

I wear my flat cap with pride.

Just for the record I like the low, wide look but it's food for thought that these ARE rare cars. To compare them with Escorts is fine but I bet most of the retro-fitted arches are to basic Escorts wanting to be Gp4 lookalikes - we don't have 'basic' Zs. Just look how much standard TwinCam and RSs are worth with original bodywork. Escort Mk1 and Mk2 are my era in fact I was taken out in an RS1600 before they were released and also been driven around Boreham by Mick Jones in a Mk1 RS2000. Plus I toured the AVO department when it was in full flow.

It would be more appropriate to consider cutting arches out of E Types, TR6s, Elans, MGCs etc etc - it's never done is it and they are not as rare as our cars.

When owners fitted replica G Noses and sunroofs they thought they were improving their cars. My blue car has headlamp covers and a rear spoiler - I wish it hadn't.

It depends if you give a stuff or not, personally I don't, I love the japanese classic tuning scene and want my car styled in the same vein.

 

[Dave_Brown]

new leather covers for seats are here, colour of stitching gives a clue to the future body colour


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