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Just bought our first Z (240Z)

Discussion in 'Rebuilds and restorations' started by Woody928, Jul 5, 2016.

  1. Woody928

    Woody928
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    They have a whole range but I just went with the regular 2mm stuff. There's so much conflicting advice out there about how much coverage to do and which product to use but this seemed like a reasonable option. I'd still like to do more another time but its much more satisfying closing the doors and hatch now!
     
  2. Rob Gaskin

    Rob Gaskin Treasurer Staff Member Moderator

    This sound-proofing is quite a personal choice thing. I suppose it depends on what you do with your car. I love the noises my Zs make, they are part of the buzz I get from driving them.
     
  3. uk66fastback

    uk66fastback
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    Having the header now installed Mark, I can't think this makes much difference to the soundproofing at all from experience with my Mustang. The tinniness of the panels, yes. They won't drum as much, that's for sure.

    Rob, it's not like a modern car, where you get in and close the door and can barely hear what's going on outside!
     
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  4. IbanezDan51

    IbanezDan51
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    Have you driven a modern electric car yet? They obviously have no engine sound, and really have to focus more on the NVH issues with body hole sizes, sound proofing, seals etc. They are infinitely quieter than your average hatchback. Its actually extremely nice and when you get back in a vehicle that is powered by an ICE its bloody horrid :D
     
  5. toopy

    toopy
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    Yeh agreed, Ive looked into different products before, but conflicting recommendations make it hard to make an informed choice, it's not exactly cheap stuff if you're buying more than a couple of squares either!

    Looking at your pics, there's plenty of space left to cover, but go's to prove you don't need to smother a car in the stuff for it have a marked effect :)
     
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  6. uk66fastback

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    No, I haven't, although I was nearly run over by my mate camping at the Silverstone F1 this year when he returned from the water tap in his gi-normous Mistubishi Hybrid thing and I simply never heard it and walked in front of it without hearing it coming ... okay, he was only doing about 5mph, but still ...
     
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  7. Rob Gaskin

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    Ok my last post on this (I know I can be a PITA).

    I've been out in my Samuri this afternoon (after shopping with my wife Jayne in my Volvo XC60). It was escapism and I loved it! The induction roar (triple webers), the exhaust (Janspeed one silencer) the gearlever buzz (S14) and the suspension crash and rattle all told me I was alive and driving a super classic sports car. I'm 67 and still got a thrill from it. Just like my old trackday car - no way am I fitting sound deadening pads or ear muffs! Bring it on, this is why I love my Zs. Ask those old guys racing this weekend at Goodwood what thickness sound deadening they have!
     
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  8. MaximG

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    Yes but they aren't driving 2,3,400 miles in them.
     
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  9. Woody928

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    This was one of the big reasons for doing the job, all the panels sounded awful closing doors.

    It's a hard one as to how far you go, I've seen it done both ways. This way is certainly cheaper and lighter while providing huge benifits, I'm sure total coverage would enhance it further but where do you stop...

    :rofl: Missing the point I think Rob, I love all of those things mentioned however when you're cruising for hundreds of miles then interior rattles, road rumble and drone don't make for a fun experience.... I still have the some induction, exhaust noise etc however the cabin is slightly quieter, less wearing and more able to allow for conversation. It's well worth doing, I'm sure a car with full coverage would be amazing and still allow for the same exciting experience, just in more comfort!
     
  10. Ian

    Ian
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    Yes, for a car thats used often its nice to not have excessive unwanted noise.

    You don't need panels fully covered for this to work, 50% is all you need as its just there to stop resonance and booming of the panels. After this you want to use foams and heavy vinyl layer.

    I'm going to do mine as light weight as possible using 40% coverage per panel with the buytl mat and a combined foam and mass loaded vinyl in places like around the gearbox. Hopefully I can make it nicer for long trips without adding much weight. Being a 78 mine had a good amount of tar layer anyway before I removed it for restoration.
     
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  11. uk66fastback

    uk66fastback
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    I know covering panels completely (as I did) will add extra weight, but unless you're racing the thing, does that really matter? I'm sure most people who've had the car a while probably weigh more than they did a decade ago when they got it - have they noticed the sluggishness of the car after they've piled one a stone or two - I bet not! Obviously there's the extra cost as well though of the extra material.
     
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  12. Woody928

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    Well I'm a bit behind on here but having found five spare minutes I thought I'd at least update this thread so that its left in correct order.

    We took both the 240z and my dads Austin Healey 3000 to Europe as planned and several of you followed last summer. Both cars covered 3700 miles across France, Switzerland, Monaco, Italy, Liechtenstein, Austria and Germany in just over three weeks before finishing up at the Bicester Heritage Sunday Scramble where we had a cracking turn out.

    The cars tackled the French Alps, undertook a rally with Petrolicious, went over Stevlio Pass and we made it down to Modena with both cars to do all of the major factory tours. The trip was the trip of a lifetime and has so many good memories associated with it.

    Petrolicious event written up here ;-)

    https://petrolicious.com/articles/drive-tastefully-lago-maggiore-is-the-best-way-to-experience-italy

    The car didn't miss a beat, the only maintenance was the odd oil top up with a slight leak. With my driving style, the car was thoroughly thrashed throughout and driven to the limits so it really is a testament to the engineering and how far the build has progressed.

    The only thing that was lacking was the engine, the car certainly struggled more as we went up some of the mountain passes. The lack of oxygen really showed up the limitations of an engine only putting out 150bhp. There are future plans to resolve this though

    My last act with the Z before leaving the UK was to purchase an L28 (N42 - F54) from another club member on here (Huge thank you). SGS Engineering make an awesome engine crane and engine stand which have been commissioned. It's currently in storage however there are plans afoot to build it fresh when I return and aim for a power output of approx 200bhp with a 7k rpm limit using all of my current bolt on mods. I feel this will allow me the extra power I crave to assist with overtakes without making it a car that is too fast to be properly enjoyed on the road.

    My journey overseas continues though and for now my dad will be the one running the Z in my absence, I'm told its still going strong on the various outings it's had. My current motoring fix has come in the form of two wheels now. Having acquired my full bike license just before leaving the UK by the skin of my teeth, I've spent the last three months journeying across Vietnam by motorbike. A 127cc Honda Win Detech isn't a Z but its given me other life long memories and completely transformed my idea travel and touring. More motorbikes will no doubt feature.

    I'm going to have a gap for a while with no transport but there are now plans to buy an adventure bike in India and tour the country for 6 months to resolve that come the summer. Who knows when I'll return to the UK (possibly 2022) but the car and engine will no doubt be waiting.

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  13. Woody928

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  14. Rushingphil

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    Great photos Mark,

    Am enjoying your travel blog - must be due another update if you get another spare 5 mins EXTRA:)
     
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  15. peter_s

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    Fantastic shots!

    Glad to see the 240 used like it should!
     
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  16. Woody928

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    Thanks man.

    Really pleased to hear you're enjoying it. Sadly that one is much more than a five minute job! If you have a look there's a lot of recent content I just don't update the thread on here due to time. I've spent the last couple of days alone in a cafe just writing and editing content....

    Cheers dude, there's still hundreds more to choose from, that's just a small selection. In my mind there's only one thing to do with anything mechanical and that's use it as intended!
     
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  17. johnymd

    johnymd
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    Great pictures. Look like your having the time of your life.

    I remember the first time I drove to Val de'sere I took the wrong roar up the mountain and couldn't get past that peak in your picture due to heavy snow. I had to drive all the way back down the mountain and up the other way. Superb roads and I would always look forward to the drive up and down the snowy mountain roads to the ski resort.
     
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  18. Woody928

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    It's hard to complain ;-)

    That's awesome, its pretty staggering up there. We were fortunate enough to drive both sides with no obstructions, Septembers weather seemed like the perfect time for this trip.

    By far my favourite is still Col de la Bonette, I still maintain that driving up the West side the Col was the best road I've ever driven! A completely exhilarating experience...
     

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