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Importing Exhaust Systems
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SeanDezart
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Dumb not to buy direct from Japan then.
No, I don't....or I wouldn't have asked. Besides, with so many dealers and then prices can change - look the RHD site where there is a current saving of Y29,826 :
https://www.rhdjapan.com/fujitsubo-legalis-r-exhaust-muffler-s30-gs30-hs30-hs30h.html
Where are they ? RHD for one, Nengun for another but you're ignori,ng my second point so I'll spell it out and why I asked what a FULL line and muffler costs :
I'm very surprised to see ONLY the rear muffler offered at £526 that no-one contradicted me when I'm sure I've seen the complete line for just over £750 !
https://www.rhdjapan.com/fujitsubo-...fler-rear-piece-only-s30-gs30-hs30-hs30h.html
https://www.rhdjapan.com/fujitsubo-...fler-rear-piece-only-s30-gs30-hs30-hs30h.html
Both quote only the muffler except one comes with all the mounting kit and gasket
Here, the line isn't listed seperately but when one takes the combined manifold+line price and deducts the quoted manifold-only price, one arrives for the line at Y123225 / £853
If you good chaps can find it for sale in Japan for less, share it or admit that the middle men take their share between Fujitsubo and their clients !
Going back to the muffler price : line+muffler = £853 - £526 = £327 for the twin line - really ?
I'm certainly not surprised that a quality part made in Japan by Japanese and after all their engineering investment costs.....but I still remain surprised by the cost of the muffler only.....unless I'm missing something in which case, please enlighten me.
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
Dumb not to buy direct from Japan then.
No, I don't....or I wouldn't have asked. Besides, with so many dealers and then prices can change - look the RHD site where there is a current saving of Y29,826 :
https://www.rhdjapan.com/fujitsubo-legalis-r-exhaust-muffler-s30-gs30-hs30-hs30h.html
Where are they ? RHD for one, Nengun for another but you're ignori,ng my second point so I'll spell it out and why I asked what a FULL line and muffler costs :
I'm very surprised to see ONLY the rear muffler offered at £526 that no-one contradicted me when I'm sure I've seen the complete line for just over £750 !
https://www.rhdjapan.com/fujitsubo-...fler-rear-piece-only-s30-gs30-hs30-hs30h.html
https://www.rhdjapan.com/fujitsubo-...fler-rear-piece-only-s30-gs30-hs30-hs30h.html
Both quote only the muffler except one comes with all the mounting kit and gasket
Here, the line isn't listed seperately but when one takes the combined manifold+line price and deducts the quoted manifold-only price, one arrives for the line at Y123225 / £853
If you good chaps can find it for sale in Japan for less, share it or admit that the middle men take their share between Fujitsubo and their clients !
Going back to the muffler price : line+muffler = £853 - £526 = £327 for the twin line - really ?
I'm certainly not surprised that a quality part made in Japan by Japanese and after all their engineering investment costs.....but I still remain surprised by the cost of the muffler only.....unless I'm missing something in which case, please enlighten me.
We've been through this a few times over various web forums. Classic z car thread? A full system is anywhere from £1100-1300 depending on where you get it from and making sure you're getting the newly developed one.
This is an example of a full system.
https://www.rhdjapan.com/fujitsubo-...-exhaust-muffler-set-s30-gs30-hs30-hs30h.html
I'd imagine the rear silencer(not muffler!) costs that amount due to the way its constructed, its a proper twin pipe system, they have to recover some of the development costs. Agreed its expensive on its own, however get the full setup(as developed and intended) and its actually quite sensible for what you're getting.
I agree you're being foolish not to buy direct from Japan.
Albrecht
Well-Known Forum User
I'm certainly not surprised that a quality part made in Japan by Japanese and after all their engineering investment costs.....but I still remain surprised by the cost of the muffler only.....unless I'm missing something in which case, please enlighten me.
I'm not sure what you're getting at though? Why do you always seem to be having a dig at the Japanese manufacturers?
You say you're "...not surprised that a quality part made in Japan..." looks relatively expensive when you convert a Japanese retail price into GBP (you mention shipping and duty too) but you don't seem to be taking into account that it doesn't necessarily look like that to a Japanese customer.
You're in the business of making and selling exhausts, of course. If you think the Japanese customers are paying too much for Japanese-made products, perhaps you might like to take a shot at selling your wares in Japan?
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
Why do YOU believe I'm always having a pop at the Japanese exhaust manufacturers - I'm not, never have done nor will do and I've repeated that so many times I'm now bored with your persistent obtuse, blinkered stuck in the groove standard response.
You seem to be over-wary of Jap-bashing of which I've never been one - can hardly be when I've been driving Japanese for 33 years and striven so hard since to get the cars (and by definition, the parts) better recognised - c'mon Alan, lighten up mate !
Great kits, all of them.
I merely questioned the price and in considering that Pete had made one up himself, he'd done a good job and saved himself a packet.
You mention Japanese customers but we're here talking about parts exported and their costs here - I don't see what Japanese customers have to do with the subject.
I wouldn't know where to begin selling into Japan and the same problems of shipping costs and customs would apply to them making them altogether less competitive in the JDM. Also, I suspect and quite understandably, they prefer home-made parts.
But not the issue either - you asked a question : which middle-men ?
My answer is another :
is the complete kit less expensive direct bought direct from Fujitsubo or via the (middle-men) retailers such as RHD ?
And can someone explain to me why its specified for L20 and L24 engines only despite strokers fitting them ?
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
not sure what this is for but seems a couple of people like using it
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
Do you bleed radiators with it ?
Albrecht
Well-Known Forum User
LOL. It may be something to do with you so often being animated about the Japanese exhaust manufacturers - and Fujitsubo in particular - and asking question upon question about them every time the subject comes up. You have a dog in the fight, so it's hard to shake off the suspicion that what you're actually doing is some kind of advertorial for your own product...
As has been pointed out to you, if you are so *interested* in the Fujitsubo systems then maybe you should buy one?
Regarding your "middlemen", I asked where the middlemen were. Your answer was to give me two names. That's the answer to a different question, and missing the point I was trying to make.
You've made my point for me with regard to sales in Japan. You started out with a kind of "HOW much?!" exclamation but pretty soon came around to the notion that - for Japanese customers - buying Japanese makes sense and doesn't cost as much as it would for an export sale. And in the case of Fujitsubo, their 'Legalis' systems (the clue is in the name...) are street legal and will pass inspection on the car, which is a bit of a big deal over there.
SeanDezart said:
So another Fujitsubo question then...
Just like your previous questions regarding fitment around R200 diffs (Japan never got an R200-equipped S30/S31-series Z, remember?) this can be answered by thinking about the Japanese market. Japan 'only' got a choice of S20, L20(A/AE/T etc) and L24-powered S30/S31-series Zs. So for Fujitsubo 'Legalis' street legal systems, that's all they can legally recommend for the L-gata powered S30/S31-series chassis. Anything else is 'custom', requires declaration to the authorities by the owner/user to be legal for road use and therefore - it follows - is a case-by-case scenario which a manufacturer like Fujitsubo is likely to leave up to the end user to sort out.
richiep
Club Member
That £526 is NOT the muffler only price - it’s the full exhaust system. The rear back box section only is £374 via RHDJapan.
I know because I bought my Fujitsubo from RHD; back then, they didnt list the all in one price. TBH, not sure what they are playing at with that full kit price, as it is cheaper to buy the manifold and system separately. RHD are not immune to errors though...
I know because I bought my Fujitsubo from RHD; back then, they didnt list the all in one price. TBH, not sure what they are playing at with that full kit price, as it is cheaper to buy the manifold and system separately. RHD are not immune to errors though...
RawlinSTR
Club Member
To bring things back a bit, as Pete said, the exhaust he showed is not the one on my Datsun.
Mine is a TRUST system, I'm led to believe they were quite popular in the early 2000's.
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
Thats the older style system, the one I linked was the 're-development' of that one.
Bazzateer
Club Member
I'd hang that on the wall in my living room, art!
So good I posted it thrice! It's a pujitsubo exhaust. Planning on getting this made with the help of a TIG welder (person not machine).
It’s a great exhaust that I was seriously considering. The earlier versions didn’t do well with an R200 diff and needed a corner ground off the diff and some bending of the pipes. But I’m not sure if they have resolved it now? Cue Franky [emoji12]
The fujitsubo exhaust is indeed a thing of beauty. The welds on the manifold in particular are beautifully laid and cleaned up.
The fujitsubo exhaust is indeed a thing of beauty. The welds on the manifold in particular are beautifully laid and cleaned up.
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
They’re designed for an r180 diff so I wouldn’t comment on an r200.
as above for a mass produced exhaust, quality/form/function are miles ahead of anything upto that price bracket. Well worth it when you compare it side by side against others.
pete, who are you siding for your copy? Much of a saving over buying the original? You could make it better and follow the sports option twin pipe route?
as above for a mass produced exhaust, quality/form/function are miles ahead of anything upto that price bracket. Well worth it when you compare it side by side against others.
pete, who are you siding for your copy? Much of a saving over buying the original? You could make it better and follow the sports option twin pipe route?
Don't know what the bolded bit means? I doubt it'll be much cheaper or even cheaper! Do you have details of the 'sports option'?