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Albrecht

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So many of these 'history' pieces repeat this by wrote, but do they ever stop to consider the facts?

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It wasn't. It was the 'brainchild' of Nissan Japan's staff. Principally Hajime SUITSU and Teiichi HARA, but planned, styled, engineered and productionised by a cast of characters as long as your arm.

Katayama came into the story late, and had a minimal amount of input on design and engineering of the car (apart from softening it up and dumbing it down for the North American market) and was principally involved in marketing it.
 

Albrecht

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Staying on the 'history' preamble at the beginning of the video, a word about production quantities/sales figures.

We often see/hear the fact that the great majority of S30-series Z production went to the USA. That is correct, but it should not be used as evidence of absolute bias in design and engineering. Listening to how people use the numbers you'd think it did.

There was really not much in the way of design concession to the North American market variant because ALL of the variants seen at launch in October 1969 were conceived, styled, designed, engineered and made production-ready at the same time. Pretty much every one of those at-launch variants (S30-S, S30-D, PS30-D, PS30-SB, HLS30U(V), HLS30Q, HS30, HS30QU etc etc) carried details which were redundant, but present because they were necessary on other variants.

Sales figures are evidence of many factors such as market potential, selling price, exchange rate, taxes and duties, tariff quotas etc etc, but not so much of design and engineering.
 

istoo

Club Member
Was a nice review, i like Henry Catchpoles reviews generally like the same things.
Was quite uplifting, always feel there is a 'poor relation' chat in the a lot of the videos but this doesnt have it. Spoken about for its own merits, and the critical parts were shades of the silver on the interiors. thats high praise IMHO
 

AD240Z

Club Member
Lovely modern interpretation, and by the looks of it worth every penny :)

A lot of it I love . Really love .

Bits of it not so much- but I guess you’d spec out those yourself when ordering.

He doesn’t say a price for the evolution - but says along the lines of ‘expecting a £1m price tag - it’s not even a quarter of it’. So £200-£250k?

Would I spend that much - if I had it …. ??

Does £225k buy you a better driving experience than some member cars on here ?

If I had that money - I’d be tempted by a lot of other motors and still have change to pay my gas bill ….. (heating on 3 hours per day - get a jumper on) .

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MCBladeRun

Club Member
Surprised the carbon fibre doesn't save much weight up to the thin steel, but I guess that's offset with the weight added on the interior?

As far as driving experience goes, each to their own.
 

DaveF

Club Member
When they launcher MZR you could get one for £ 45k.....I guess you can't anymore!

I also love a lot of what they've done and it will definitely raise the marque if they start to be seen in the same light as a RUF or Singer Porsche
 

Jay.

Club Member
Enjoyed the video - despite it not being fully accurate, I believe it gave a good sense of its perceived history. Henry is probably my favourite automotive journalist and thought the video was really well presented.

As for the prices of MZR cars - they were £45k base (and up to around £70k) when I enquired 4-5 years ago. I believe the Sport Classic that they unveiled at the NEC was advertised at a starting price of £80k. I'm sure you wouldn't be able to pick anything up for less than 6 figures now though.
 

SeanDezart

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Does £225k buy you a better driving experience than some member cars on here ?

If I had that money - I’d be tempted by a lot of other motors and still have change to pay my gas bill ….. (heating on 3 hours per day - get a jumper on) .

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I agree with the Mrs and Frankly, I'm not a fan of ultra-low-profile tyres on these cars.

A lot of the money goes into the panel fitting....
 

istoo

Club Member
I agree with the Mrs and Frankly, I'm not a fan of ultra-low-profile tyres on these cars.

A lot of the money goes into the panel fitting....
I understand the brakes requirement but same view on low profile tyres and harsh suspension.

I’ve watched it three times now, captures a lot of the spirit of the car imho. At that price I’m guessing they are more of a saville row tailors suit than a one size fits all. Still. I’d like to see an all out track/race car variant minimal but top drawer everything .
 
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