Alphabettispaghetti
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Hi Ian, where did you get your replica Kobe Seiko's from?
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Fairlady Z432 at Sothebys
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I would suspect this is replica of the Kobe Seiko "Rally" Works magnesium in aluminium. The Works Rally wheel (only in magnesium) was, as far as I understand, never sold to the general public by Nissan, but a few have found there way into the publics hands. Thus where the replicas come from.
A very small run (I hear, costing tens of thousands of pounds) was done, of replicas of the Works Rally wheel, in aluminium, and magnesium (14"), and an even smaller run scaled up to 15" dia. in magnesium (I have some). The likelyhood of this happening again, is, well, remote, unless someone has some very deep pockets.
I have seen some replica Kobe Seiko Works Rally wheels (and originals) for sale in Japan, again, expensive, as the work involved to make them....I have just brought a set of replica Kobe Seiko wheels...
Thanks for sharing, great knowledge! Also curious to know where you acquired your set?!
Some interesting things here. Even a build your own 432.
http://bhauction.jp/en/
http://bhauction.jp/en/
IbanezDan51
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Not really sure how this Z432 is so early yet has vented rear quarter emblems?
http://bhauction.jp/pdf/catalog/040_1972_NISSAN_FAIRLADY_Z_432_BASE_VEHICLE_FOR_RESTORATION.pdf
Dan
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
Chassis number.
IbanezDan51
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PS30-00521
Ahhh good point. PS30-00521 is a 72 car and would have been vented quarters. Wonder what the change over chassis number was to the later cars?
Alphabettispaghetti
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Ps30 cars or HLS 30?
I've no idea on either. I'd guess on the latter its around hls30-19000?
Personally its got to to be a 69/70 build date to be early. I now there's early ones built till about 03/71?
the estimate on the 432 is well off? Engines are about £40k I think
Albrecht
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Solid quarter/vented tailgate to vented quarter/solid tailgate changeover for PS30-prefixed Fairlady Z432 was chassis number 'PS30-00401'.
Lots of missing/wrong parts on that particular auction. The "refurbished original wheels" are actually reproduction KS Rally Mag type rather than original (narrower) KS 432 Mag type, the transmission is the wrong one, etc etc. I'm not convinced that the engine block number is correct for this late a production car, but as the engine block number is not recorded anywhere else on the car you'd need to look at the original docs for the car to confirm it.
In Japan, this kind of 'late' type 432 is considered less pure than the solid quarter type cars. Less 432-specific content than the earlier cars, and sometimes considered a 'run-out model'. They generally change hands for quite a lot less than the earlier cars too.
I don't really like this kind of sale. And putting that many KPGC10s (five!?) into one auction seems like a good way to flood the market and lower the average sale price.
Alphabettispaghetti
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I did wonder about the number of KPGC10's. Seems strange. What do they normally change hands for?
Albrecht
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I'd say averages are around 17 to 20 million JPY, with a big variation on condition/originality. The very best - most correct/original - have changed hands for 24+ million JPY in the last couple of years. The majority of high figure person-to-person sales are of course private, so difficult to verify.
The auction estimates are all over the place. You get ridiculously low mixed with silly high, and all part of the hype.
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Alphabettispaghetti
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Alan, I take the undesirable one
SeanDezart
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Damn, left my chequebook at home....