Alphabettispaghetti
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the one thing everyone agrees on is that f1 is normally so so so so so so so so so boring that its good to have something to talk about.
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F1 - great race.
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It's mainly boring because on TV you can't hear the cars (commentators talk 99% of the time) AND the video slows the cars down. They look like they are cruising around at 60mph and with no sound effects it consolidates that impression.
Also you can't see the drivers apart from the top of their crash helmets so they could be radio-controlled.
Watching motorcycle racing is so different because you can see all of the rider and what he is doing to get the bike around a corner. The lean is amazing and so are the wheelies and rear slides under braking.
I was in awe of the drivers/cars on Friday because of the acceleration, cornering, braking (huge G forces) and the wonderful sound of incredible engineering.
The cars are just too good at what they do but it's all lost on TV.
'franky' if you were able to sit in one of these cars during just one lap at race speeds you might appreciate them more. In the early days when I used to watch GP racing the cars were much slower but equally impressive because you could see more car control due to inefficiencies of design (especially no aero).
So do we go backwards to make it more visual on TV?
'franky' have you ever recorded in-car video when you were driving flat-out and experiencing some G force and slight traction loss that you are controlling with your throttle and steering? What did it look like when you played it back on a screen? Why does it dumb everything down - perhaps you know from your profession?
If we could watch an F1 race from inside a car in a simulator the experience would be fantastic - and we'd probably be sick.
The crash - sitting in an armchair looking at Hamilton and Verstappen trying to out-do each other at one of the fastest corners in motor-racing just doesn't get the 'moment' across. They are having to make split-second calculations and decision, they can't rewind and play it over and over (even perhaps in slow motion) to decide who would be to blame if they touched.
Bazzateer
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The stewards said Lewis was predominantly to blame, which suggests they felt Max contributed in part.
Hamilton asked if Max was OK before the red flag, so he did not ignore the fact that he may have been hurt.
LeClerc was right behind and believes it was a racing incident. Alonso said the same after watching replays.
On the subject of words that some may take offence to: in my experience offence is taken more often than it is given. If someone chooses to take something the wrong way so they can feel offended and/or indulge in gesture politics to further their own agenda I pity them.
Hamilton asked if Max was OK before the red flag, so he did not ignore the fact that he may have been hurt.
LeClerc was right behind and believes it was a racing incident. Alonso said the same after watching replays.
On the subject of words that some may take offence to: in my experience offence is taken more often than it is given. If someone chooses to take something the wrong way so they can feel offended and/or indulge in gesture politics to further their own agenda I pity them.
Another great race today, 'gripping' right to the end.
uk66fastback
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A great race in which that ‘unknown’, the weather (the ONE thing the teams can’t control) played a big part at the most crucial time. Felt sorry for Lando, but he’ll learn from this - he’s a long way behind Lewis in his experience obviously. Just booked for Silverstone next year so new cars and the usual drivers’ merry-go-round will make it a great spectacle. A couple of years ago there we had rain on one side of the track and not the other and it made for an exciting end to the race.
Brilliant Brazilian GP today.
Max and Lewis are brilliant.
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
was a good race. Amazing how much quicker that Mercedes is.
Guys another VERY exciting race which will be talked about for a while.
SacCyclone
Club Member
Yes, very exciting race with plenty of down time due to red flags.....
uk66fastback
Club Member
You watch Max take Lewis out next weekend, using tactics that Schumacher used (until he came unstuck). Verstappen would win the title on most wins if neither finish …
Bazzateer
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I wouldn't put it past him to do something like that.
Unfortunately Max let's himself down by his uncompromising approach. He is such a fast racer but he doesn't give way if there is a chance to prevent a driver passing him no matter what the outcome.
The collision with Lewis is more complicated than I first thought though. The DRS line seems to have affected both drivers actions. We will see what the stewards make of the data.
Fantastic season for the sport though, a sport which has sometimes been labelled boring.
The Saudi circuit is dangerous and will always lead to crashes and stoppages.
The collision with Lewis is more complicated than I first thought though. The DRS line seems to have affected both drivers actions. We will see what the stewards make of the data.
Fantastic season for the sport though, a sport which has sometimes been labelled boring.
The Saudi circuit is dangerous and will always lead to crashes and stoppages.
Alphabettispaghetti
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I think it’s great that max never wants to be the one to back out. All the greatest racers are like it.
win or loose next weekend, max has shown what a great racer can do in a slower car.
win or loose next weekend, max has shown what a great racer can do in a slower car.
For those who haven't seen it you couldn't write a better script.