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Discussion in 'Classifieds discussion' started by Herc34es, Apr 20, 2021.

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What would a good price for it be?

Poll closed Apr 27, 2021.
  1. 10K

    1 vote(s)
    25.0%
  2. 11K

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. 12K

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. 13K+

    1 vote(s)
    25.0%
  5. <10K

    2 vote(s)
    50.0%
  1. Herc34es

    Herc34es
    Z Club Member

    Hello! Please my apologies if this is not the correct place to put it :S

    I am really new to purchasing classic cars and I am always very skeptical with making the right purchase (my wife will murder me for buying a datsun over a 2021 car.).

    I found this datsun: https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1328077
    and I got extra pictures in this folder here. The car currently doesn't drive. It has quite some rust at the bottom (prob new panel but again I am not an expert yet).

    I would really appreciate any tips.
     

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  2. Mr Tenno

    Mr Tenno
    ZClub Administrator
    Staff Member Moderator

    Hard to call a value on that without seeing it in person. Seems to be pretty straight but then has very nasty looking rust patches (which will be even worse behind)
     
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  3. Herc34es

    Herc34es
    Z Club Member

    Exactly what worries me... Also I am not experienced in person as well, thus a bit worried I will miss a lot of things :/
     
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  4. uk66fastback

    uk66fastback
    Z Club Member

    Car looks an honest enough project but all these original, unrestored cars will have some rust, even the US dry state imports. You need to see it in the flesh as well before parting with any money. If you’re not okay with doing the repairs yourself it could be a costly business, so take someone who knows about these cars (or certainly cars of this era) with you.
     
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  5. Herc34es

    Herc34es
    Z Club Member

    Would love to take one, but alas I know noone that I could take with me.
     
  6. status

    status Well-Known Forum User

    It could mean instant death when your missus sees it,walk away,too many people asking silly money for classic cars,they are jumping on the band wagon,spend 25 k ish or a tad more on a mint 240/260,you will not get your money back like you would if it was a 240/260 even though the 280 is a much better car to drive due to it’s running gear,they were meant mainly for the USA so leave em there to enjoy
     
  7. IbanezDan51

    IbanezDan51
    Z Club Member

    Find me a mint 240Z for 25k ish and I’ll have them all
     
  8. uk66fastback

    uk66fastback
    Z Club Member

    LHD he means ...
     
  9. Farmer42

    Farmer42
    Z Club Member

    IMO, I would leave it alone. Without it running & driving you can't be sure of the condition of the engine, drivetrain, brakes, suspension etc. You would be looking at around £10k to restore assuming there is no galloping rot in things like sills, rear quarters and floors that you can't see at first glance. Then if you have to start replacing mechanicals it gets expensive. You could end up putting upwards of £15k into it on top of the purchase and you are then into the realms of restored car money. 280Z are not worth that sort of money and you will not get that back.
     
  10. Rob Gaskin

    Rob Gaskin Treasurer Staff Member Moderator

    WhatsApp Image 2021-04-20 at 15.45.10.jpeg WhatsApp Image 2021-04-20 at 15.45.11.jpeg If you are not experienced with Classic cars and can't do the work yourself this is not the car for you. This car from a distance will attract a person like yourself who wants a car that looks the same as a 240 and appears to be a cheap 'way in' to these well respected and appreciating cars.

    I did consider offering to view this car (Coventry is fairly close) but I've had a look at all the pictures and to be honest I don't need to see it in the flesh. The two pictures of the underside of the footwells say it all.

    A brown 280 sold last week on ebay for £9600 I think and that was a more 'sound' car than this.

    My advice is don't buy it, especially if your wife is against a classic car anyway. This car needs to be bought by an experienced Datsun enthusiast with facilities and skills (and money) to restore it in a big garage.
     
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  11. Albrecht

    Albrecht Well-Known Forum User

    ^This. It's a massive project hidden behind an air of 50-foot respectability. Iceberg.
     
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  12. Herc34es

    Herc34es
    Z Club Member

    Thank you everyone for the feedback!

    I completely agree! I am always extremely skeptical of the listings, that's why I am always asking for tons of pics before buying, as well as videos etc. I am new to the "game" but I try to be as careful as possible.

    I hope I will not sound stupid here, but why a 280Z is not worth that sort of money? :p
     
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  13. Ped

    Ped
    Z Club Member

    The rust on the doors and sills looks pretty bad to me. As others have said it will be worse than you expect, so for £15k sounds too much. 28os are just not as valuable or seen as 'pure' as the 240z. No doubt they will increase in value, but you would end up spending a lot to get it restored.
     
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  14. status

    status Well-Known Forum User

    As Farmer said they ain’t worth as much as a 240/260 and I did say a tad more,I know of a nice 240 for 28 k and it’s totally standard I’ll get the bloke to pop round if you really want one,he has a nice 260 as well,not sure if that’s for sale though
     
  15. IbanezDan51

    IbanezDan51
    Z Club Member

    And so did I...
    Perhaps my "mint" is another persons daily run around though.
     
  16. IbanezDan51

    IbanezDan51
    Z Club Member

    That 280 was definitely hiding a few things - but probably not as much as this one.
     
  17. richiep

    richiep
    Z Club Member

    I third these comments. There's plenty of positives about the car - BUT only if you have the skills, knowledge, and facilities to know what you are looking at and what needs doing to address the negatives. As Rob notes, it is suited to an experienced enthusiast, given some of the repairs needed will be involved and would only be cost effective if one is doing the work oneself. It will need new floors, underfloor supports, chassis rail gussets, possibly a chassis rail, battery tray area (not shown so assume that too is rotten through); also, the rust around the filler is nasty and will require fabrication (no off-the-shelf repair panels for that area), the door is trash, etc. And I've not even mentioned the mechanicals. You get the picture! I think 15k is too much given the rust issues and non-running nature.
     
  18. status

    status Well-Known Forum User

    It’s RHD but you obviously don’t want it then and yeah agree with Rob it needs loads done,don’t rush into buying something you don’t know much about,you buy cheap you get cheap
     
  19. Robbie J

    Robbie J
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  20. Robbie J

    Robbie J
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