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Datsun 240Z - 1971 Blue Metallic 903 - Resto

Discussion in 'Rebuilds and restorations' started by Datsunbat, Aug 2, 2017.

  1. Datsunbat

    Datsunbat Forum User

    Hi again.

    On the last two weeks Mr.Vitorino worked on other projects and on the last days he worked in the Z.

    He started with the doors, and at first they seem in pretty nice shape...but then he found some clues on bad reparations years ago. With this he decided to separate the door panel from the structure and he was right, they need some intervetion. Tons of rust and event the protetion layer was completely cracked.

    This week I hope he finishes at least one door, because on Thursday I'm going to the shop.

    Meanwhile, the electric system was rebuilt and is now tunned for 1971, I'm talking about the rear plate lights.

    Let's see the pictures,,,and like I said...this was the correct moment for this Z...

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    The interior as Mr. Vitorino suspected...passenger door.

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    Drivers door with the same aspect...

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    And based in this suspections we have decided to make a full reparation of the doors. Next photos are from the passenger door. Door panel and interior panel removed.
    I believe these were the worst parts of this car, and I'm aware of the rust on the front and rear arches and I think I'll be lucky.


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    Hope you are enjoying this resto...next week some more news!

    Regards
    Mário
     
  2. Datsunbat

    Datsunbat Forum User

    Hi again!
    Here I am with some fresh news and photos.
    The metal work is on a great speed and this week the doors were finished.
    This week I think the rear and cowl grill will be finished too.
    The doors gave us some trouble and we had to send them to sandblast to clean the metal, not the panel, but the interior. By the end a new panel was used. The drivers door was in bad shape, worst than the passenger side.
    On Saturday we remove the symbols, rear spoiler and rear lights. Only the bumper remain.
    I hope the rear and front are better than the doors…
    Let’s see the photos!

    Doors and interior separated…
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    Doors ready. The green painting is a spray to protect the metal for the rust.

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    Mr.Vitorino looking for some rust…ahahahah

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    This was a corner of one door…tons of rust…

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    Under the cowl grill the scenery is good. I was a little bit worried about it…true..but Mr.Vitorino said that’s ok…the surprise is next…

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    Under the grill…

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  3. Datsunbat

    Datsunbat Forum User

    The grill had to high pointson both sides, like a screw, but…it wasn’t what we thought…
    Somebody before had covered the rust on the panel with iron mass and hammered the rust point down. With time the mass began to crack…and the result was this…

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    Mr.Vitorino immediatly started to work and found tons of rust!


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    All this marerial, like a spounge, hide the rust!

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    Again the original blue!

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    The spoiler removed and a cracked srew…

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    The bumper is not for my serie, I’ll remove it…only the enter is needed!
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    I’ll use charcoal colour to paint the structures…

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    Again the original blue and the rear door in excellent shape!!! No intervention needed!

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    My homework is now recover the symbols and clean some parts.

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    Mr. Vitorino trying to get the rear lights…not an easy task!

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    Hope you enjoyed the photos.
    Next weekend I’ll try to get some more!

    Regards
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  4. uk66fastback

    uk66fastback
    Z Club Member

    Great stuff Mário - enjoyed the pics - tell Mr V to keep up the good work!
     
  5. Datsunbat

    Datsunbat Forum User

    Hi folks,
    I’ve got some more news!
    Yesterday I’ve been in Mr.Vitorino garage, and I found my Z with another 2 parts finished. The cowl rill and the rear.
    This means that soon he will be repairing the floors and front, I believe in one month for the metal work and then painting.
    Soon I’ll take out the engine and gear-box to make the treatment and finish the metal work.
    I’ve already started to separate some parts for the chrome and some to recover at home.
    The cowl grill had to be redone in the extremities but now the part is new. And the rear was our big problem!!! The rear lights have never been removed and all the bolts were in bad shape, some we had to waste because were corroded.

    Let’s see the photos for you to see all the advances!


    This was redone because of the rust on the rear. The worst part was above the lights.
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    This part was severe…but now rédone!

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    The cowl grill is redone now…

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    And again the original blue in two separated parts of the car.

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    My Homework…

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    Hope you have enjoyed the photos and the work until now!
    Next week more news!


    uk66fastback: I'll tell him! He is a great man working with metal! Love the way you call it...Mr.V...awesome!!! Really cool!!!

    Regards
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  6. jonbills

    jonbills
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    Nice work
     
  7. Rob Gaskin

    Rob Gaskin Membership Secretary Staff Member Committee Member

    I really enjoy this restoration story, thank you for including us.

    Would your car have been fitted with a rear spoiler when new and should the front indicator lights be in the front valance and not on the bumper?

    Albrecht will tell us.
     
  8. uk66fastback

    uk66fastback
    Z Club Member

    I love happy people!
     
  9. Rob Gaskin

    Rob Gaskin Membership Secretary Staff Member Committee Member

    Is that a response to my post? If so you will need to explain what you are meaning.

    If you are just stating a fact then yes I love happy people too.
     
  10. uk66fastback

    uk66fastback
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    Not you Rob, the OP ... his posts sound so enthusiastic! Which is great.
     
  11. Datsunbat

    Datsunbat Forum User

    Hi!

    Thanks a lo for yout feed-back!

    jonbills: Thanks a lot! We are doing what we thing it's correct to get te Z back for another 40 years!!! But I want it with all the originality!

    Rob Gaskin: Thank you for your words! I like to document all the stages on the resto, I think we all learn a lot with it, that's the reason, but at the same time your opinions count a lot too! when I'm not secure about a detail I ask and search for infomation and that's one point of this.

    Abou the Z, This car is the HLS30-23644, a serie II and it had crashed during the 90's. By that time they made some modifications. The front indicator lights, rear bumper, rear window and center console are not correct, they are 73 spcs. I have been buying all the parts to put her in the correct year. when the car goes to painting I'll start to caring the correct parts to install them.

    The rear and front spolier, wood steering wheel, Kobe seiko wheels are equippment that came with the car when new. In Portugal all came with it. I believe in Belgium too! Our Z's were one of the most complete they are the "U". If you go back in this post you will read about it.

    uk66fastback: Thanks a lot. I'm very happy too! This Z will going to be an awesome car! I'm waiting for the painting day...
     
  12. Mr.G

    Mr.G
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    Very happy for you, great photos and great work by Mr. Vitorino.

    I am curious as to whether you found any chalk markings under the glove compartment such as the ones Albrecht posted?

    Keep the photos coming please.
     
  13. Datsunbat

    Datsunbat Forum User

    Hi everybody,
    After one month break, the works have returned.
    Today we have been dismantling the sidewings, grill, lights, bumpers and soo n. All went well, but srews are evil…I hate them a lot…some broke and were in hard position to took.
    Until now I was on the Z book searching just for the srews. I want them new!!!1
    I thought the Z was na easy car do disassemble, but it isn’t!!! Too many tricks.
    This week the works go to the sides of the car as you’ll see on the pictures!
    Hope you still like them!

    A ViZit…eheheh

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    Hood, bumper and grill…no difficulties…

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    The grill

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    Then surprises…

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  14. Datsunbat

    Datsunbat Forum User

    The super horns…I don’t even know what model they belog…not Datsun for shure!
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    And it looked like this…

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    Side wings and lights..major problems with the screws…horrible!!! All went rust and some broke!!!

    The surprise…

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    What a big hole…

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  15. Datsunbat

    Datsunbat Forum User

    The battery corner is rusty too…

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    All stripped…
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    Right side in good shape…needs a cleaning…but srews are evil…more than an hour…

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    Superficial rust…some luck here!!!

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    Down the door is possible the worst part of the right side.

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  16. Datsunbat

    Datsunbat Forum User

    Some appointments to do…nothing special!

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    We took the car to the lifter to check all the issues we discovered…well…need deep metal work on the left side!
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    Left side…

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    Right side…

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    These wings just need cleaning work!

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    And this last photo for today…bolts with story…46 precisely…but very stubborns

    Hope you enjoyed the work so far…


    Rob Gaskin: Yes, my car has the rear spoiler, kobe seiko wheels, wood steering whell, 5 speed gear box, all from the beggining, it's an europe specs car. The car is a 71 and the front indicators are woring according to car's year, that will be the first change. I have bought the parts to put it 100% original. My vin is 23644.

    jonbills: Thanks a lot. Let's see if all keeps original!

    uk66fastback: thanks a lot! This is my second resto, first I restored a B110 and now a Z. I really pulse with this kind of work. It's extremely cool to see all the steps from the beginning.

    Mr.G: Today I forgot to make som photos on the glove compartment. During this week I'll try to make, Albrecht told me to do it, but Mr.Vitorino had some problems and stop all the work. I promise next week!




    Regards
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  17. Rob Gaskin

    Rob Gaskin Membership Secretary Staff Member Committee Member

    Thank you for the pictures and text. I understand that you don't like screws! Perhaps oil all the other screws in preparation for more stripping - it might help. If not at least you have done what you can.

    I like the other Datsun in the picture.
     
  18. Albrecht

    Albrecht Well-Known Forum User

    They are classic Bosch 40w horns. Should be a pair - one low tone and one high. They are loud!
     
  19. Datsunbat

    Datsunbat Forum User

    Rob Gaskin: Thanks Rob. We did it with WD40 and oil...but even so they were very rusty and difficult all the work. But noe it's done!!! The 510 SSS is one of my others cars. I have the 240Z, 510 SSS, B110 and a recente buy a 280ZX from 78. This 510 is in excellent condition, I just chaned whells, all completely original. Has only 70.000 km's and I'm the second owner of it.

    Albrecht : I was very suspecting it, because I have a friend with many vw beetles and I think it's one of the original on them. I own a pair, the other is at home...too much noise!!! These were not the origianals I believe!!! I have bought a pair long time ago.
     
  20. Datsunbat

    Datsunbat Forum User

    Hi everybody...



    another week and some more work to show...some surprises, the usual I think and some really bad news...hey after all she's 47...



    Today I went Mr.Vitorino shop only to check the work and see what parts and pieces are in need for the next couple of weeks.

    During the week we talked each other on the phone...always bad news...welll...ain't that bad...I think...



    The good news are the fenders, they are now ready to fix the car...they were in good conditionsm only where the bolts screw were interventionated. Then all the passenger floor was re-done, the exception is in the back, small rust to clean, notheing to worry.



    The bad news, the passenger floor completely ruined...I was really impressed, never thought of it!!! And it looks like someone had done some previous work too. Now I've to buy the entyre part. The water channel was started too and a hand-made part will substitute it,



    We took the engine and gearbox and nothing to worry, even the fireguard is in excellent condition...amazing but it is...Now we've to recover the colours for the air filter and engine. I'll make some work on it this week...let's see what happens.



    Let's check the photos...



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    Passenger side...done...the exception is in the place where Mr.Vitorino has his hands.



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    Driver's side...ruined...but behind the seat rails is excellent...really odd...



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    Fenders ready fot the painting...



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    The front needs some attention...nothing serious...I think!



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    Now another discovery...the original blue again...

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