I knew that. That's why I did it really.
Everyone can say what they think as as long as they can keep it within the code of conduct.
Anyway, isn't the thread about moderation rather than over moderation?
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Everyone can say what they think as as long as they can keep it within the code of conduct.
Anyway, isn't the thread about moderation rather than over moderation?
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
Hi Jon, its over moderation, which is what seems to be going on.
Generally, every time we excise discretion it ends in more severe rule breaking.
And yet when someone speaks out about a bad experience at a beloved garage doing sub-standard work, they are shot down in flames - so you can surely see the challenge here?
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
I'm keeping low but following this thread.
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
Totally, I know of two people that have had a bad experience of fourways, just a few more who have had positive. FWIW, the positives seem to be around bodywork/restoration, not 'engine work'. however I don't know enough people
Thats the idea of a forum though, discussion both ways.
Done factually, without getting personal, flaming people, name calling - basically staying within forum rules - would be fine.
Clearly those moderating are seeing people stepping outside of the club modicum.
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
Is there not another factor here ? That the mods are concerned of being chased for allowing libel ?
In the history of the internet has a forum representative ever been taken to court for anything, ever.
I don't know of one.
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
I'm with the mods on this one - FrankLy - drop it mate !
Alphabettispaghetti
Club Member
I wouldn’t say so. You only have to look at PistonHeads, hardly ever moderated, if a thread goes really wrong, it’s locked.
H Jason please feel free to Pm me and i will tell you, or is that against the rules too?? I even wrote you all a farewell message but that got took off and i said sorry for putting it in the wrong place.The club won't tolerate what i wrote and yes i admitted i went about it the wrong way, but I won't tolerate what happened and can't support a club that allows this to happen sorry if my words are wrong again.
toopy
Club Member
I have to admit there's been a few times where threads i thought were going to be moderated weren't, and at other times something was moderated for what seemed like no reason at all, maybe I'm a bit more liberal when it comes to mild profanity and a little 'cleavage'.
However, rules are rules and it is a difficult juggling act between allowing discussion and stopping bullying etc. It's certainly not a job i would want to be responsible for and on the whole I would be on the Mods side. A modicum of leeway, at least initially on occasion i feel would be acceptable.
However, rules are rules and it is a difficult juggling act between allowing discussion and stopping bullying etc. It's certainly not a job i would want to be responsible for and on the whole I would be on the Mods side. A modicum of leeway, at least initially on occasion i feel would be acceptable.
uk66fastback
Club Member
There are two sides to every story and the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle (that is not a direct comment on Kev's problem by the way as I don't know anything about it).
Pistonheads has got worse in terms of moderation (ie harsher) in the years since Haymarket took over. Now it's been sold again, i don't know what will happen. If they don't keep the forums though - the thing could prove an expensive mistake. It's the one thing regulars like me go back for, having been a member since 2001.
Pistonheads has got worse in terms of moderation (ie harsher) in the years since Haymarket took over. Now it's been sold again, i don't know what will happen. If they don't keep the forums though - the thing could prove an expensive mistake. It's the one thing regulars like me go back for, having been a member since 2001.
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
Believe me there have been court cases
Not saying the below relates to Kev’s post but normally it is the follow on statements by others joining in that normally gives cause for concern
Libel Nature of Forums
A forum is a platform created for the exchange of information and opinions. Disagreements are common. Whereas people in a face-to-face discussion will generally act maturely when disagreeing about a topic, forum members act differently.
The design of most Internet forums is such that “artificial bravery” is a serious problem and libel the result. This artificial bravery comes in the form of anonymity. Just as catnip may remove any inhibitions on the part of a cat, anonymity seems to remove any sniff of maturity from many forum members. An otherwise respectable member of society will post the most outlandish of statements without a second thought.
The tendency to make wild, unsubstantiated statements on Internet forums often introduces an element of defamation to the equation. The defamation occurs in the form of libel since it is a written claim, and members tend to get their money worth when blasting another member. These same members then appear shocked to learn liability could arise from their defamatory statements. The question is whether the same is true for the forum.
uk66fastback
Club Member
You can't be done for libel for telling the truth though ... it's how you then have to 'prove' that truth that is the concern ...
Cutting a pasting a ramble about internet forums proves nothing. The chances of getting taken to court for a bit of online handbags is virtually zero.