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Black Bug
Well-Known Forum User
Seems a shame to break an apparently good running Z just because of a few areas of rust. Of course the full story isn't shown in those pics, "what's it like underneath?!". Also if the car has been "enthusiastically maintained" why is it rusty and why is it on SORN?!!
Still it's only a 2+2!
flame suit on, hiding in nuclear bunker
Cheers,
Rob
Still it's only a 2+2!
flame suit on, hiding in nuclear bunker
Cheers,
Rob
grolls
Well-Known Forum User
if you were to put a 100% bog standard car up against a car in the same condition that has has masses of mods my mind tells me the standard car would be worth more be it a 2 seater or a 2+2! may the debate start.
best i get on and finnish mine before the world runs out of petrol and i have to convert it to a chicken poo muncher! .....lol
best i get on and finnish mine before the world runs out of petrol and i have to convert it to a chicken poo muncher! .....lol
Black Bug
Well-Known Forum User
Well I think the debate is more on the lines of what mods detract from a vehicles values and what mods enhance (or at least make no difference) to the value and what mods can be considered just plain desirable.
The absolute purist collectors market is very small I believe, as are the numbers of absolutley stock Zs out there. I suspect the majority of purchasers these days are buying the cars because of their looks, classic status and their degree of performance.
However certain areas of the cars can be improved on, I believe in a way that won't detract from their value. Most cars are going to need new shock inserts, so why buy old technology when new technology is available? The stock brakes were adequate (just) in the 70s, can they really be described as adequate for today's traffic conditions? What constitutes a mod there? Does putting improved performance pads on stock disks ruin a car? Does putting slightly larger disks and calipers on from other cars of the Z period detract even though they make the car safer?
So how far on the scale of modding can really be considered detrimental to the value?
On the other hand highly modded cars can be sold but like the totally original examples are only desired by a smaller market. Let's take Mark Rayner's twin turbo beasty as an example. It's one of the more extreme raod cars in the country but you could hardly say it isn't worth as much as a stock example! I bet the majority of members in the club wouldn't object if Mark's car happened to be in their garage
Ah, don't you just love an early Sunday morning debate?
Cheers,
Rob
The absolute purist collectors market is very small I believe, as are the numbers of absolutley stock Zs out there. I suspect the majority of purchasers these days are buying the cars because of their looks, classic status and their degree of performance.
However certain areas of the cars can be improved on, I believe in a way that won't detract from their value. Most cars are going to need new shock inserts, so why buy old technology when new technology is available? The stock brakes were adequate (just) in the 70s, can they really be described as adequate for today's traffic conditions? What constitutes a mod there? Does putting improved performance pads on stock disks ruin a car? Does putting slightly larger disks and calipers on from other cars of the Z period detract even though they make the car safer?
So how far on the scale of modding can really be considered detrimental to the value?
On the other hand highly modded cars can be sold but like the totally original examples are only desired by a smaller market. Let's take Mark Rayner's twin turbo beasty as an example. It's one of the more extreme raod cars in the country but you could hardly say it isn't worth as much as a stock example! I bet the majority of members in the club wouldn't object if Mark's car happened to be in their garage
Ah, don't you just love an early Sunday morning debate?
Cheers,
Rob
STEVE BURNS
Club Member
are people saying that a bog standard car is valued at more than one of the three james taylor cars that 4ways did or more than big sam or evil kneviels car if they are I think they need to seriously think again
there is no doubt in my mind that if any of these cars where in the same auction at the same time as say a bog standard car that the modified car would go for a lot more money
stands back and await the torrents of abuse from purists
there is no doubt in my mind that if any of these cars where in the same auction at the same time as say a bog standard car that the modified car would go for a lot more money
stands back and await the torrents of abuse from purists
SeanDezart
Well-Known Forum User
No purists, no Beckists and no goertzism ! Lots of flying pigs though aiming to be sliced into spam !