I just checked samuri-240's profile and it says they've not been online since Jan 1, 2018, so you're not likely to get a response I'm afraid.Can I possibly ask how I get hold of your mate I now own this lovely car and purchased off a lovely family Peter who had the car a number of years had sadly passed away in 2021 and early Summer 2022 I agreed to buy the car was Peters pride and joy .. I am advised he was a regular on the 240z scene and it was a very tough sale for the family tgat day ..
Can I possibly ask how I get hold of your mate I now own this lovely car and purchased off a lovely family Peter who had the car a number of years had sadly passed away in 2021 and early Summer 2022 I agreed to buy the car was Peters pride and joy .. I am advised he was a regular on the 240z scene and it was a very tough sale for the family tgat day ..
No, Sean H bought Peter Sewards old car which was red and black as AD240Z figured out.Sean bought Peter's blue/silver 240z I believe.
Where the whale-tail car from the beginning of this thread is concerned, the last I was aware, Phil (red baron) still had what was left of it and a donor car. I think due to Phil's health ups and downs - along with him having had a couple of other nice 240Zs for short periods in the last few years (a Rebello-engined import and the ex-Barrie Williams car) - it hasn't progressed much at all. I haven't spoken to him in a while, so he may have sold it all on...
As I'm not sure whether the person who now has the car actually wants the fact to be publicised, I'll have to keep quiet for now.
The car is still in Russia.
It says no longer available rather than sold. I'm fairly sure he still had it after 2017...Looks like Red baron sold the sad samuri .
@Albrecht was keeping quiet about the russian one - looking through the thread .......................................
Why thatI might make it a New Year's Resolution not to talk about any 'Samuri' cars at all, apart from The Big Three*.
*which are in fact The Big Six, as is traditional where all things Samuri are concerned...
Why that
My super samuri Is flying the flag For the club and represent what Spike was capable of doin to a 240z
Also sad samuri went over to Ireland and guess what he not making it a Sammy he doin his own thing can't remember bloke name bit his wife Karen I have on Facebook and send me pics every now and then
Alan - are you the reference on all Samuri cars ?The less I say about what the whole 'Samuri' situation has become*, the better for people who are happy to go along with it all.
You talk of somebody "not making it a Sammy", as though these things can be done - and undone - at a whim. Indeed, that's exactly what people have been doing. That's the whole problem.
Alan - are you the reference on all Samuri cars ?
Still not helping me as a 240z super samuri owner spike certificate
Also the 2x Clive saw it and they said it exactly how spike modified them respect to you and keeping it like this
Awwww I don't agree with fake samuri I went to see one about 7yrs ago bloke basically said it was a samuri then went on to say it been built to oneHave never claimed to be. Did somebody else claim that I am, or is that just something that popped into your head.
On the other hand, I was involved in (properly) researching and identifying the true origin of the bodyshell that 'Big Sam' currently resides in for the previous long-term owner (and which the subsequent owner - in true 'Samuri' tradition - discarded because it wasn't as sexy as the utter blarney they preferred) and also properly researching 'LAL 909K', identifying and authenticating it for the current owner (ask him). Maybe I know a bit about them? Still a lot to learn, and I would not trust too much that's been written about them in the past...
As for the rest of them, I'd say - again, being polite - that they are best viewed on a case-by-case basis. The 'Samuri' name being sold/not sold/stolen/appropriated/misused/applied to cars 'converted' remotely/"we are the new owners" etc etc (pick one) and cars being "authenticated" remotely with a 'certificate'..... It's all too much of a stew for truth to be separated from fiction and fantasy.
Yes, there are cars like Mr Ex Jr's which are well known, authentic and judged as 'correct' (I'm not saying otherwise), but there are also cars that are completely sexed-up recent fabrications, but are - bizarrely - "on the list". I'm not referring to the recent 'Sanction' cars such as that built for Win Percy.
People get very fragile about all this and become offended, but even a minimal amount of scrutiny lays bare how bizarre and messy the whole 'Samuri' thing became after the few years of its original activities. Calling it out is totally justified, but it is very much a sacred cow for some. People don't like the boat being rocked.
Here's a question for you Christian. What do you think about the blatant fakery and 'sexing-up' that goes on with many of the cars that are claimed to be "on the list" and have a "certificate"?
Do you not think that having obvious jokers in the pack devalues the whole thing? Don't you think these imposters devalue your own - genuine and correct - car? I do.
I have said - many many times - that I have NO problem with replicas/tributes/lookalikes/re-creations (whatever we want to call them this week) but they MUST be correctly identified as such. If not, they risk degrading and even destroying the reflected glory that they seek to bask in.
.. It's all too much of a stew for truth to be separated from fiction and fantasy.
Yes, there are cars like Mr Ex Jr's which are well known, authentic and judged as 'correct' (I'm not saying otherwise), but there are also cars that are completely sexed-up recent fabrications, but are - bizarrely - "on the list". I'm not referring to the recent 'Sanction' cars such as that built for Win Percy.
I know this car has been discussed lots of times.
Do you not think that having obvious jokers in the pack devalues the whole thing? Don't you think these imposters devalue your own - genuine and correct - car? I do.
I have said - many many times - that I have NO problem with replicas/tributes/lookalikes/re-creations (whatever we want to call them this week) but they MUST be correctly identified as such. If not, they risk degrading and even destroying the reflected glory that they seek to bask in.
Have never claimed to be. Did somebody else claim that I am, or is that just something that popped into your head.
Yes, you're very knowledgeable only upon the competition cars, in fact the Big Three.......those 3x that really interest you and I don't blame you for limiting your interest to those and the values they may attract up for sale.On the other hand, I was involved in (properly) researching and identifying the true origin of the bodyshell that 'Big Sam' currently resides in for the previous long-term owner (and which the subsequent owner - in true 'Samuri' tradition - discarded because it wasn't as sexy as the utter blarney they preferred) and also properly researching 'LAL 909K', identifying and authenticating it for the current owner (ask him). Maybe I know a bit about them? Still a lot to learn, and I would not trust too much that's been written about them in the past...
Totally agreed.As for the rest of them, I'd say - again, being polite - that they are best viewed on a case-by-case basis.
'cos it's about money !Calling it out is totally justified, but it is very much a sacred cow for some. People don't like the boat being rocked.
I don't believe the obvious jokers devalue the remainder and if anyone buys one without having done their homework, at least participating in the owners club BEFOREHAND, then caveat emptor ! We are not the Z-internet police but there to assist if potentiel buyers/owners appraoch us (see above in bold).Here's a question for you Christian. What do you think about the blatant fakery and 'sexing-up' that goes on with many of the cars that are claimed to be "on the list" and have a "certificate"?
Do you not think that having obvious jokers in the pack devalues the whole thing? Don't you think these imposters devalue your own - genuine and correct - car? I do.
The same goes for parts or merely the sum of parts ie cars ?I have said - many many times - that I have NO problem with replicas/tributes/lookalikes/re-creations (whatever we want to call them this week) but they MUST be correctly identified as such. If not, they risk degrading and even destroying the reflected glory that they seek to bask in.
Gold/Maroon vs Red/brown and 2565cc vs L28......kinda proves Alans' point - no ?I know this car has been discussed lots of times.
You would think the person issuing the certificate ,especially after writing two books, and building several cars, would know the difference between an S30 and a HS30!
Alan - are you the reference on all Samuri cars ?
It appreared to be implied here, that somehow your saying something ie opinion had some weight :
And I wouldn't argue with you however IF you are a reference
...and I don't blame you for limiting your interest to those and the values they may attract up for sale.
Big six ? Are you including some of Spikes' last spurt ?
I'm not referring to the recent 'Sanction' cars such as that built for Win Percy.
I don't believe the obvious jokers devalue the remainder...
The same goes for parts or merely the sum of parts ie cars ?
ps : is this a real Samuri ?