Nissan Rally Wheels

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SeanDezart

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I only quoted what your supplier stated. I like to see all of them on scales

There’s a lot of metal on that design. So would add weight to a casting, they’re not forged.

Less metal than Ians' - aren't his M-Speed ?

there must be a reason they were magnesium, obviously they were racing at the point where everything you can do counts.

Absolutely.......especially in a sub-2litre class ?
 

Mr Tenno

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Right - keep the discussion here on-topic about the rally wheels. Any discussion that's not related to the technical aspects of them will be removed.
 

SeanDezart

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I don't understand why you have introduced some doubt into my choice of wheel - on FB as in Preets' thread here, there was only one version for sale - the one with the open spokes. That is what I've bought.

I hope that they will fit over my 240Z front brake kit but if they don't, it's no big deal - I'm buying a second S30 and I'll keep that cars' brakes near to stock so fitting won't be a problem.

Did you see the measurements that Preet kindly posted up showing the total inner diameter ?
 

AliK

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I'd take a punt on the fact that they've not wanted to pay for the correct certification. Or that they intend as a 'race only' part. Same as buying Kehin FCR's from Japan and they come with super cool race use only stickers on them.

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So how would that figure in an insurance claim situation I winder? Would the insurance company be within their rights to not payout due to uncertified wheels being used? Or are classics generally considered a grey area for these certifications?
 
So how would that figure in an insurance claim situation I winder? Would the insurance company be within their rights to not payout due to uncertified wheels being used? Or are classics generally considered a grey area for these certifications?

if it/they were a contributing factor. most likely it wouldn't be.
 
I don't understand why you have introduced some doubt into my choice of wheel - on FB as in Preets' thread here, there was only one version for sale - the one with the open spokes. That is what I've bought.

I hope that they will fit over my 240Z front brake kit but if they don't, it's no big deal - I'm buying a second S30 and I'll keep that cars' brakes near to stock so fitting won't be a problem.

Did you see the measurements that Preet kindly posted up showing the total inner diameter ?

there's 2 types of m speed wheels for sale.
 

SeanDezart

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there's 2 types of m speed wheels for sale.

Show me please ?

As far as I know, both the Bulgarian guy and Preet are selling the open-spoked type and that's what I've bought - you know different ?

Mine'll go on a 280Z 2+2 - look just right with the cars' colour.:)
 

Bazzateer

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So how would that figure in an insurance claim situation I winder? Would the insurance company be within their rights to not payout due to uncertified wheels being used? Or are classics generally considered a grey area for these certifications?
I'm guessing that only applies in Japan?
 

SeanDezart

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I have an L31, on aftermarket EFi, bigger brakes, diszcs all ropund, a different ratio gearbox, diff with an LSD, coilovers, PAS, bigger wheels and tyres - does anyone really think I give a toss about wheel certification ?
 

Albrecht

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I have an L31, on aftermarket EFi, bigger brakes, diszcs all ropund, a different ratio gearbox, diff with an LSD, coilovers, PAS, bigger wheels and tyres - does anyone really think I give a toss about wheel certification ?

A selection of quotes from this thread:

SeanDezart said:
Please can anyone confirm that these were optional catalogue wheels for any S30/31 ?

SeanDezart said:
So, aside from these wheels fitted on the Portuguese market 240Zs which are preseumably neither works nor magnesium wheels : https://fsautomoveis.com/datsun-240z/ none of these type of wheels whether Kobe Seiko or M-Speed are authorised for the road.

SeanDezart said:
Does that mean then that even the M-Speed replicas are not JWL /JASMA certified ?

SeanDezart said:
Why would M-Speed invest to produce a 9kg* replica wheel unauthorised for road-use ?

SeanDezart said:
Alan, you didn't answer my questions - why would M-Speed invest in an uncertified wheel unfit for road use please ? And why would anyone therefore buy them unless for static show display or garage wall decoration ?

SeanDezart said:
Not sure I'd go racing with them with certification at all tho....

QED
 

SeanDezart

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Alan, you didn't answer my questions - why would M-Speed invest in an uncertified wheel unfit for road use please ?

And why would anyone therefore buy them unless for static show display or garage wall decoration ?

And for the bonus, why would then factory sell to a third party instead of M-Speed ?

Do those replica wheels for which you'v e been consulted carry the complete certification or a disclaimer ?

QED mon cul - I have a set, will use them and I didn't pay the full price - I'm happy - might even buy another set just to enciourage sales and see more cars with them.:p
 

Albrecht

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So how would that figure in an insurance claim situation I winder? Would the insurance company be within their rights to not payout due to uncertified wheels being used? Or are classics generally considered a grey area for these certifications?

You're missing the point. M-Speed's replica wheels are sold with stickers that clearly state their position. Like many aftermarket parts sold in nations with thyperactive legal professions (USA for example...) Japanese parts manufacturers are often obligated to state get-outs like 'For Off Road Use Only', 'For Race Use Only', 'Not For Use On The Public Road' etc etc. This enables them to sell parts that would otherwise need to go through rigorous and expensive testing and certification processes.

This is perfectly normal. If you bought Nissan's official 'Sports/Race Option' parts for the S30-series Z back in 1970, you'd see this sticker on the boxes, and usually on the parts themselves:

Race Use Only caveat sticker.jpg

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It's an indemnity sticker. Use them on the road and Nissan are not responsible for anything a where's there's blame there's a claim type lawyer might want to pin on them.


Buy your wheels out of the back door of a Chinese factory, and - lo and behold - no stickers and lots of unanswered questions.
 

Albrecht

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Alan, you didn't answer my questions - why would M-Speed invest in an uncertified wheel unfit for road use please ?

And why would anyone therefore buy them unless for static show display or garage wall decoration ?

And for the bonus, why would then factory sell to a third party instead of M-Speed ?

Do those replica wheels for which you'v e been consulted carry the complete certification or a disclaimer ?

Ask your supplier.
 

Albrecht

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Alan, you didn't answer my questions - why would M-Speed invest in an uncertified wheel unfit for road use please ?

And why would anyone therefore buy them unless for static show display or garage wall decoration ?

And for the bonus, why would then factory sell to a third party instead of M-Speed ?

Do those replica wheels for which you'v e been consulted carry the complete certification or a disclaimer ?



SeanDezart said:
...does anyone really think I give a toss about wheel certification ?

I have a hunch, just a hunch, that you really do.
 

SeanDezart

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I'm not missing any point Alan.

These wheels like many other parts are stated as not for road use. I see no difference aqt akll, between an M-Speed stickers saying 'no road use' and no sticker at all as per supplied by the Chinese manufacturer.

And frankly, France couldn't give two merdes for a sticker or not is road use is not intended for such parts. My insurance is an agereed value policy via a specialist in hot-rods, kit-cars and modified classics - all is stated and in the event of an accident, I'll be fully covered.

I really don't give a toss about certification ('or not) from Japan or China or anywhere else.
 
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