Fujitsubo for cars with r200 diff

The below copied from the classiczcars forum

he original with the fatter resonator:

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The updated one with tucked up adjacent pipes:

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And this one with the split:

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Robotsan

Club Member
Ooh, I want.

I assume if I fitted this, but then later wanted to change to the R180 diff, that would be fine and it'll all still fit?
 
Ooh, I want.

I assume if I fitted this, but then later wanted to change to the R180 diff, that would be fine and it'll all still fit?

I can't see any reason why not. given the r200 is the size of the moon compared to an r180. I'm tempted to get the revised section for the r180.
 

Makesy

Club Member
Ooh, I want.

I assume if I fitted this, but then later wanted to change to the R180 diff, that would be fine and it'll all still fit?

After both a mildly amusing and impossibly frustrating set of events, I have an r180, 2 old r200s and a newer r200 currently sat on my garage floor.

The r200s are indeed significantly larger than the r180. I couldn't see clearance being an issue if reverting from an r200 to an r180
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
Seems very well detailed as far as descriptions go?
Indeed, such caveats stating :

Engine type: L20 Year : (1969.11-1975.9), compatible with R200 differential

Maximimum output (when fitted to the L20 engine) = 69.9kw / 95ps (where Wiki quotes "Fairlady Z (1970–1983). It produces 85kw / 115 PS")

Primary pipe ext diameter: 45mm (one size fits all).

3000 - 5000rpm exhaust noise = 106dB (loud)

* Some processing may occur during installation due to old cars. We will not be responsible for any costs or complaints in that case.

* As this product is a functional product, we cannot guarantee it except for initial product defects that are clearly caused by our company.

* The heat shield must be processed
 . Cannot be installed on vehicles equipped with a genuine air cleaner box .


Do you know where the O² sensor plus is fitted - no trace of it on the photos or in the diagrams ?
 
Just need to up the ponies to make up for it ;)

Its the spider gears that are the weak point. There's lots of other Nissans/datsuns, running a r160 with big torque and no issues..... however they've got an LSD. So an r180 with an LSD, it'll take the torque loading of a 4wd car in a Subaru etc....
 

Albrecht

Well-Known Forum User
...and nice to hear that they now have an O² sensor plug.

Who did you hear it from? Not from Fujitsubo, I think.

Maximimum output (when fitted to the L20 engine) = 69.9kw / 95ps (where Wiki quotes "Fairlady Z (1970–1983). It produces 85kw / 115 PS")

LOL. I don't think you understand the description.

* Some processing may occur during installation due to old cars. We will not be responsible for any costs or complaints in that case.

Perfectly fair, I'd say. If your 50-year old car is non-standard, they cannot possibly be expected to make allowances on a case-by-case basis. Especially on an exhaust system which is certified legal for road use in Japan by JASMA and has gone through the certification process to allow that.

* As this product is a functional product, we cannot guarantee it except for initial product defects that are clearly caused by our company.

And? What's wrong with that? Do you guarantee your products against mis-fitting and misuse by end-users?

* The heat shield must be processed
 . Cannot be installed on vehicles equipped with a genuine air cleaner box .

I don't know about anyone else, but I would not expect anything else. What's the problem?




I remember a few years back on the classiczcars thread where you stated that, in your opinion, Fujitsubo should (somehow?!) curate every individual sale to the end user, even when bought through unauthorised third-party vendors like Whitehead Performance. How could the manufacturer possibly do that? Bizarre.

Strange that you always seem so exercised about FGK's products. I wonder why that could be...?
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
...and nice to hear that they now have an O² sensor plug.

Who did you hear it from? Not from Fujitsubo, I think.

I read it from the same forum Jason did
Maximimum output (when fitted to the L20 engine) = 69.9kw / 95ps (where Wiki quotes "Fairlady Z (1970–1983). It produces 85kw / 115 PS")

LOL. I don't think you understand the description.

So, please do explain better.

* Some processing may occur during installation due to old cars. We will not be responsible for any costs or complaints in that case.

Perfectly fair, I'd say. If your 50-year old car is non-standard, they cannot possibly be expected to make allowances on a case-by-case basis. Especially on an exhaust system which is certified legal for road use in Japan by JASMA and has gone through the certification process to allow that.

I agree, perfectly fair - merely listing it as a caveat

* As this product is a functional product, we cannot guarantee it except for initial product defects that are clearly caused by our company.

And? What's wrong with that? Do you guarantee your products against mis-fitting and misuse by end-users?

I work with every client who contacts me with any fitting issues whether due to my parts, their work of a cars' mods. And yes, we've already discussed my gaurantee - had you forgotten ? I'll replace any failed part free and any road/track damaged part at cost, normally implying free postage.
* The heat shield must be processed
 . Cannot be installed on vehicles equipped with a genuine air cleaner box .

I don't know about anyone else, but I would not expect anything else. What's the problem?

You might not but almost all clients do expect to fit after-market headers with a stock heatshield - fact and one that even Fujitsubo recognises...otherwise they wouldn't mention it, no doubt from repeated dealer feedback. Again, quite fair to say so - and I might add you appear to take my quoting it as some form of criticism which is far from the truth - again, simply quoting the products caveats.

I remember a few years back on the classiczcars thread where you stated that, in your opinion, Fujitsubo should (somehow?!) curate every individual sale to the end user, even when bought through unauthorised third-party vendors like Whitehead Performance.

Yes, I did and I beleive that when a producer sells via third parties, their client-responsability doesn't end there. The producer owes it to their clients and their own quality reputation to ensure that their parts are concisely and correctly described for the end-clients satisfaction.

You buy yoghurt from a supermarket and it tastes 'wrong', you take it back to the shop BUT there are also customer service contact details on the pot you can also contact.

How could the manufacturer possibly do that? Bizarre.

Oh yee of petty imagination : simply but looking through the listings of said dealers - there aren't thousands of them and requesting/suggesting corrections/additions. Even a simply newsletter update from the producer to each dealer would have the desired effect.....doesn't take much doing.

Strange that you always seem so exercised about FGK's products. I wonder why that could be...?

Purely because they're consistently the only ones ever quoted on Z forums - what about their own JDM competition ? If people only talk about Fujitsubo, I can only be 'exercised' about them. Quote other makes and let us freely discuss them all - I have no hates nor preferences.
 
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Mr Tenno

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Site Administrator
Have cleaned up the thread so will now re-open it:

- No inflammatory comments
- No double posting

If you want to have a back and forth between two people - take it to PMs please.
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User

someone else on Classiczcars.com said:
I know this thread is old… and, um, tense… but it’s also the best resource for info on the Fujitsubo 240z systems on the internet… if you dig through it. So I’m posting an update in case people weren’t aware:

Fujitsubo have a new new version of the Legalis R on the market. It is the EXH Performance EPU version (15-15415) and from what I can tell it’s updates are an O2 sensor and rerouting the pipes at the rear of the car to split before and wrap around the dif.

So that make three versions you can buy online right now[/I]

This is a quote taken from that US Z forum, posted in early 2017, obviously the us$ is at a much better rate now :

"Paid $1805.00 with shipping in October of 2016 shipped from Japan to United States. Headers fit great and clear left hand drive steering rack no problem but twice pipe exhaust was a poor fit on a 75 280. Had to have a shop cut and re fit exhaust to fit.

In hind sight for that kind of money I would recomend ........spend a little more and run kameari header / exhaust or save some money and use Sean's exhaust


Another quote :

"Dual system is just a waste . All that extra weight and the extra noise . All the pages of data I've read show without question that single exhaust is the best for power ."



Quoting the average $-Yen 2016 exchange rate of Y109 = $1 : https://www.exchangerates.org.uk/USD-JPY-spot-exchange-rates-history-2016.html

it cost the buyer (with import duties) approx Y197,000.

Today, the parts price (listed on RHDJapan before shipping) is Y223,000 and using todays' exchange rate : us$1560 / £1365.


Not criticism (for the over-sensitive) just stating facts.😎
 
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Mr Tenno

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On the subject of facts, can we keep this about what we know about the new Fujitsubo product please.
 
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