Black and White Number Plates

Robbie J

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https://insidedvla.blog.gov.uk/2015/11/17/whats-the-story-with-black-and-silver-number-plates/
Not sure if anyone posted this, but this DVLA page says any historic tax car can display silver and black plates. I have ordered a US size rear for my 280z, technically they didn't realise it in the EU, so it should be fine to have on the back. Haven't ordered the front yet as haven't worked out how I will mount it, now that I have taken the original bumper off.
I ordered mine from http://www.chestnut-registrations.co.uk/vintageplates.aspx they sell historic plates to anything pre 78.

reading the DVLA it implies it rolls forward with the "historic vehicle" 40 year rule or that anything before 1st Jan 1978. The article was written in 2015 so the 1st Jan 1975 makes sense... I have a dateless plate I plan to put on anyway, the new car is 76
 

uk66fastback

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I got them from https://www.showplatesdirect.com

They do the standard Jap import of 330mm wide, and then a variety of heights. If you get the Pre 2001 typeface, the letters aren't in the latest, modern font and fill out the blank yellow area to the sides better I think.
 
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toopy

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Personally i think the black & white plates should only be on cars that would of had them originally, the rolling historic 40 yr status for the plates is a mistake IMO

Give it another 5 years or so and there will be so many black & white plates on classics of all sorts that any show line up will just look odd, any suffix plate can possibly get away with it, as the uninformed probably wouldn't realise, but when the historic status hits the prefix plates! :ack:
 

uk66fastback

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Not much in the motoring world looks as visually wrong as number plates on a car to me ... wrong wheels, colour etc are all personal and subjective but plates can be simply wrong!

These RS2000s you see in black that have black and silver plates and are R reg etc ... far better to have the plates the car could have had at the time than ones which 'fit the colour scheme'. Every classic I have had has had the silver and black plates but these were beginning to be phased out in 67/68 I think and the reflective ones introduced. If I could have had the separate letters again and made my own I would have but I couldn't find smaller letters on a plate except on a flat acrylic one. So be it ... it's just the way it works with the imported plate size. I think that acrylic plates came in about 1975.
 

johnymd

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I have had various sizes and types of black/silver plates. For the rear I would generally go for 12"x6" in either the single row US style or the same size flat plate (no border), 2 line as in the Chestnut link above. The fronts I've started to use are described as "Italian '70 style" which are 12"x3" and as can be seen on the MZR cars.
 

jonbills

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I got them from https://www.showplatesdirect.com

There do the standard Jap import of 330mm wide, and then a variety of heights. If you get the Pew 2001 typeface, the letters aren't in the latest, modern font and fill out the blank yellow area to the sides better I think.
Thanks. I had a look at some different fonts last night and the pre '73 font seems a little wider still than pre 2001. I hadn't realised before that there was so much variation in width.
 

johnymd

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I use this size plate but don’t use the bottom clips and mount it a bit higher to just cover the body colour at the top.
 

Nik

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I use this size plate but don’t use the bottom clips and mount it a bit higher to just cover the body colour at the top.

I probably should have done the same as thats how the US plates where. When I respray the plastic light surround I might spray a bit of scrap material the same colour and put it behind to cover the body colour at the top.
 

ShanksKop

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Looks like this thread will rumble forever .

Do most use strong double sided or screws?

If screws what size should I be looking to order ?

I think for now I'm settling on black metal 12x6.5" as this is a total brain duckery. So I can get driving.
 

atomman

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I use the bottom clips with my US size plates but have a surround on it , so covers the painted bit
 

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Nik

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Looks like this thread will rumble forever .

Do most use strong double sided or screws?

If screws what size should I be looking to order ?

I think for now I'm settling on black metal 12x6.5" as this is a total brain duckery. So I can get driving.

I stupidly lost the screws from mine, so I just got some bolts that had a smaller diameter and put them through the hole.
 

jonbills

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Here's a couple of pics.
First is 330x165 with the proper font size for imports that are allowed that size.
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2nd is 330x202 with full size UK letters, cut down to 330x178.
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I can't find anyone willing to make a plate with 330x178 with full size letters, but I think it's what would be best.
I've tried again. This is 330x178 with pre '73 font from a1 show plates.

Better I think. Everyone agree please. My garage is full of number plate experiments and I don't want more!

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