New Petrolicious Vid

Rob Gaskin

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mmm nice car but he rambles on a bit. I suppose it's a car you would compare with a 2ltr Fairlady.
 

SeanDezart

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I'm thinking it's the smaller capacity, lower powered version of the range. Yes I know it's 4 cylinders and a shorter wheelbase but....

In other words it's the lithe version.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_912

"Concerned that the considerable price increase of a Type 911 with "flat" six-cylinder powerplant over the Type 356 would cost the company sales and narrow brand appeal, in 1963 Porsche executives decided to introduce a new four-cylinder entry-level model........After a six-year absence, the 912 was re-introduced to North America as the 1976 model year 912E (internal factory designation 923) which shared the "G-Series" bodywork with the 911S."

How does THAT compare with Nissan's introduction and evolution of the SP (L) front-engine, rwd convertibles please ?:driving:
 

Rob Gaskin

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_912

"Concerned that the considerable price increase of a Type 911 with "flat" six-cylinder powerplant over the Type 356 would cost the company sales and narrow brand appeal, in 1963 Porsche executives decided to introduce a new four-cylinder entry-level model........After a six-year absence, the 912 was re-introduced to North America as the 1976 model year 912E (internal factory designation 923) which shared the "G-Series" bodywork with the 911S."

How does THAT compare with Nissan's introduction and evolution of the SP (L) front-engine, rwd convertibles please ?:driving:

I wasn't talking about the convertible, but the S30 Fairlady.
 

SeanDezart

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I wasn't talking about the convertible, but the S30 Fairlady.
Which had 2x more cylinders and was only sold within the JDM whereas the Porsche was a world-market car ostensibly sold during the production and marketing of the SR (L) 311.;)
 

Albrecht

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I'm thinking it's the smaller capacity, lower powered version of the range.

It's an interesting comparison, but there are other ways of looking at it too. Personally I'd point more specifically at the 'Z-Std' no frills, base model S30-S Fairlady Z as a good comparison for the 912, but the somewhat dumbed-down and softened-up north American market HLS30-U Datsun 240Z with could be in with a good shout too.

Don't forget the fact that there were 2 litre 911s too, and that the unicorn-in-the-room fastest, most powerful, best-equipped and arguably most sporting S30-series Z from launch in 1969 through 1973 also had a 2 litre (but twin cam) engine....

I've been a 911 (and 912) fan since I was a boy, and I'm happy that Nissan took such inspiration from them when they were working on the S30. My favourite Z, the Fairlady Z432-R, was wholly inspired by the 911-R.
 

Woody928

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Another fantastic video from Petrolicious.

I've been following the story of the rally prepared 240z on facebook. Its a father son team that finished the rally with a time of 274 hours just 14 hours off the class winning car, which also happened to be a Datsun 240z. Cool place with a great philosophy and interesting cars.

Never get bored of their video's... :bow:
 

Albrecht

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...hard to believe that Nissan reacted and produced the PS30-SB so late in the S30s developement...

911R was what, 1966/7? How was that "so late in the S30s development"...?

SeanDezart said:
...and which was rarely competed with outside of Japan.:(

Which has little or no relevance to the point. Nissan had a job in mind for the PZR and created a car to fit the brief laid out by the rules. Job done.
 

zNathan

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Was out in a '72 911T couple months back - was quite fun! Considering the Porsche was 2.4L, the 240Z when the engine was stock felt livelier. Would be interested to have a ride in one of the sportier 911 variants to see the difference
 

chrisvega

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Was out in a '72 911T couple months back - was quite fun! Considering the Porsche was 2.4L, the 240Z when the engine was stock felt livelier. Would be interested to have a ride in one of the sportier 911 variants to see the difference

Hmmm, maybe a tired old 911 you were driving ;)

When new in 72 even a 911T bottom of the range Porsche would still outperform a standard 240Z from same year. 0-60 half a second quicker, standing quarter - a second quicker.
 

johnymd

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Although I now own 2 911's I've yet to drive either. I'm in the process of building a '73 2.8RSR tribute car from the 73/74 coupe. I'm told that nothing comes close to 911 steering so I cant wait to get it on the road.

The first 2 pictures are inspiration of how the car will look and the last is how it is now.
 

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samuri-240

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Although I now own 2 911's I've yet to drive either. I'm in the process of building a '73 2.8RSR tribute car from the 73/74 coupe. I'm told that nothing comes close to 911 steering so I cant wait to get it on the road.

The first 2 pictures are inspiration of how the car will look and the last is how it is now.

Hope it looks closer to your 1st pic there not keen on the 2nd one. I am a huge fan of the earlier 911's.
 

chrisvega

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I've owned quite a few early 911 and 912s over the years and a nicely set up early 912 (not 76 reissue model) with pair of Webers/Dellortos and minor engine tweaks gives it similar power to the 911T and is great fun to drive. 2 less cylinders means less weight in the back and better handling. Have much more confidence to push hard when road gets twisty. With those early 911s you always have that little doubt in your mind when pushing hard into corners.
 

zNathan

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Hmmm, maybe a tired old 911 you were driving ;)

When new in 72 even a 911T bottom of the range Porsche would still outperform a standard 240Z from same year. 0-60 half a second quicker, standing quarter - a second quicker.

Was in really good condition to be honest but I wasn't driving lol just didn't seem as nice an experience as the Z and I'm not being biased in any way. Based on your comment I think I need to experience some more old 911's :p
 

johnymd

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Every car needs tweaking IMO and I wont be running the standard 2.7 either. Mine will probably end up as a 3.4 with ITB's
 
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