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Old 13-01-2018, 06:00 PM
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It's happened here for a long time and I think I commented on it a few years back but yes it's par for the course that the values get talked down

Not sure why when you see what other fairly non-descript cars of that era are making and this has a straight 6

e.g Escorts, Capris, is a bargain.
I don't see how escorts and capris etc are worth nearly the same as an s30 family car.

The car linked above is a patchwork and filler quilt. I can't see how its worth 29k.
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Old 13-01-2018, 06:18 PM
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I don't see how escorts and capris etc are worth nearly the same as an s30 family car.
The thing is, Escorts and Capris among others are basically part of the national psyche, and therefore highly desirable!

I dont get the values either tho, some really nice cars out there that are definitely worth the coin, as with most marques,
but theyre just too numerous for my tastes.
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Old 13-01-2018, 06:21 PM
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The thing is, Escorts and Capris among others are basically part of the national psyche, and therefore highly desirable!

I dont get the values either tho, some really nice cars out there that are definitely worth the coin, as with most marques,
but theyre just too numerous for my tastes.
don't forget all those riding around wearing brand new shells. There's more 'never been welded' barn finds out there than 'forgotten but found samurais'.
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Old 13-01-2018, 08:44 PM
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I often wondered why the club does this, but I guess it's what we would think if buying the vehicle and it's probably good negotiation ammo for anyone considering it.

As for talking down the values who know what it will sell for versus listing price. Does anyone really know what a Z is worth as much as a Mondaeo or Golf?

Personally I would be tempted to look this one over if looking. Photos never do a car justice and often don't show other flaws. Only one way to find out for sure
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Old 13-01-2018, 09:11 PM
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I often wondered why the club does this, but I guess it's what we would think if buying the vehicle and it's probably good negotiation ammo for anyone considering it.

As for talking down the values who know what it will sell for versus listing price. Does anyone really know what a Z is worth as much as a Mondaeo or Golf?

Personally I would be tempted to look this one over if looking. Photos never do a car justice and often don't show other flaws. Only one way to find out for sure

I think a lot of the time itís what the car is worth to them. I can see a world where my car is only actually worth half what itís worth to me. Think of the reduction in value of a car without a smoke screen!

Iíd you like it, the Ďcostí is worth the Ďvalueí to you. Go for it.
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Old 13-01-2018, 09:15 PM
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Thatís my point,every time a Z comes up for sale people on here canít wait to rip it apart and nit pick without seeing it in the flesh,plenty of Zeds for sale asking silly money,
I've always wondered this, plenty of people queuing up on here to do so every time an advert gets listed.

Yes I've seen better ads before however it seems that people want to pull apart every little detail each time one goes up for sale for reasons unknown to me
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Old 13-01-2018, 09:20 PM
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I've always wondered this, plenty of people queuing up on here to do so every time an advert gets listed.

Yes I've seen better ads before however it seems that people want to pull apart every little detail each time one goes up for sale for reasons unknown to me
Your cars a prime example, terrible over popular colour. Lhd which is worthless outside the USA, worth 5k tops.

Iíll give you 6k just to save the embarrassment of trying to make a safe overtake.
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Old 14-01-2018, 12:32 AM
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I don't think anyone is 'ripping it apart' - and to me, you can see enough in the photos to know this is not a £29k car (to me, anyway)

The opening shot - beautiful paint - and a ***** looking spoiler that looks as if it's had no work done to it at all. How anyone could even screw that on in that state is beyond me!

What are we supposed to do - say , yes it's lovely?
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Old 14-01-2018, 09:08 AM
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You are right Franky,it’s cos it’s a Ford ,there is still a stigma with most about jap cars from the seventies especially rotting away,well for those old enough to remember all the BL cars rotted just as much the Vauxhall’s were know for rotting but had good engines the fords all rotted Italian cars,I won’t even go there and the few from froggy land so really they were all rot boxes,now I’m showing my age and do I wish I still had the 1600E, Mexico ect Naagh cos they don’t get near a Zed .That 260 looks ok but I can see bits that ain’t right without even seeing it in the flesh,to start with ,and this is only a little thing,For a 29K car I would’ve got the light surrounds done properly it really sticks out badly in my eyes,ok they cost a lot of dosh to get done but the asking price is high,
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Old 14-01-2018, 06:27 PM
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Well I have a mint (and I mean mint) RS2000 Mk1 and for me growing up it was THE car to have so that's why I have it. I would sell the Z before the Escort if I had to make a choice though

The Z was a great car too as I remember seeing them as a nipper. I think they're a cut above the Fords, much more expensive new and aimed at a different market I guess.

As a point of interest the Escort gets far far more comments from joe public too so I guess that proves a general theory. The peoples car
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Old 14-01-2018, 07:12 PM
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Your cars a prime example, terrible over popular colour. Lhd which is worthless outside the USA, worth 5k tops.

Iíll give you 6k just to save the embarrassment of trying to make a safe overtake.
Such a generous offer, you really must be a saint!

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I don't think anyone is 'ripping it apart' - and to me, you can see enough in the photos to know this is not a £29k car (to me, anyway)

The opening shot - beautiful paint - and a ***** looking spoiler that looks as if it's had no work done to it at all. How anyone could even screw that on in that state is beyond me!

What are we supposed to do - say , yes it's lovely?
I'm not suggesting some of the comments made over this car aren't accurate Mike, I agree I've seen nicer ones for less money as well however it was more an observation that whenever a new for sale add gets brought up on here then people seem to enjoy nit picking....
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Old 15-01-2018, 01:08 AM
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IDK, at first, in the past I've sort of felt the same about people picking at the cars, but TBH, most, if not all comments are fair to say on this car and as said in the past on many other threads. For the non Z'ders looking to buy the information can be invaluable, especially if the finer detail is pointed out by those in the know .Perhaps less colourful language in describing some faults could be welcome, but hey ho, it is what it is and as someone said, "What are we supposed to say.. it's fabulous"... etc.

Yes, in some aspects one can only comment once seen in the flesh, but some photo's leave little to the imagination. My only question is re values, and as said here and on many other posts, value is determined by the buyer and what it's worth to him/her. That's my take, for what its worth.
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