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Old 25-11-2017, 10:06 AM
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Blinded by science - now....put that in an S30 2+2 and Icould understand the smirk on your face.
They're special bits of engineering Sean. Very Special. I've always loved fast estates and proper Q-car's, which this is.

Its a triumph of a massive corporation doing something just because they can. This, the Z3M coupe etc.
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Old 25-11-2017, 10:19 AM
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Could have been done better (see attached).....and could have been worse !

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They're special bits of engineering Sean. Very Special. I've always loved fast estates and proper Q-car's, which this is.

Its a triumph of a massive corporation doing something just because they can. This, the Z3M coupe etc.
Appreciated but what is the point of someone having this on a UK road as a customer ?

How much has this car lost in value since it left the forecourt ?

Wunder-break.....
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Old 25-11-2017, 10:30 AM
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Can I be the old grannie here and ask "what's the point?"

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It drinks.
Costs a fortune merely to have on your front drive BEFORE you turn the key.
Parts and servicing are supercar too.

Somebody ?
I agree Sean, it is a bit 'bonkers' these days and that's probably why it's in a auction.

However I can't help liking it.
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Old 25-11-2017, 11:06 AM
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It’s a bit odd for Z owners to ask ‘what’s the point’ of any special car. The point is it tickles you. If you just want to go from A to B, get a 10 yr old small Toyota.
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Old 25-11-2017, 02:10 PM
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If you just want to go from A to B, get a 10 yr old small Toyota.
I did, Corolla T-sport....also 8000rpm.
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Old 25-11-2017, 05:00 PM
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I did, Corolla T-sport....also 8000rpm.
There you go then :-). Just 317bhp short.
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Old 25-11-2017, 11:15 PM
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I agree Sean, it is a bit 'bonkers' these days and that's probably why it's in a auction.

However I can't help liking it.
What's the main appeal Rob? The V10 Motor or the performance estate aspect?

I'm very tempted buy a V8 M3 at the moment (Smaller version of the V10 motor).
The Na V8 being then main lour for me. Also low mileage versions have started to appreciate in value all ready.

As has been said already. There are issues with Rod bearings wearing if not looked after properly. A periodic oil test is required to look for high lead/copper content as a sign of an issue. Plenty of company's offer a drive in service to change them, but budget £1500 to £2000 for the job.
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Old 25-11-2017, 11:16 PM
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There you go then :-). Just 317bhp short.
Yep...but :

a) mine's not purporting to be THE family car

b) it cost me £700

The beemer is a ludicrously expensive car to keep on the road and to rehike your quoting the Z as a tickler - it's hardly the same thing :

a) it is what it is - a sports-car
b) value will increase
c) running costs are minimal

The Z3M is (aside from ugly) an infinitely better buy.

This beemer is just another way of BMW enticing money from people who have too much, who spend Saturday mornings down at their local dealer making sure they have better than the Jones'.

It's a car trying to be many things at once - the recent trend, only more powerful than others so top of the rickety ladder.

The Paul Walkers of this world drive 'em like they can be ON THE ROADS and incite Govts to crack-down on interesting cars.

GOM mode 'off'.
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Old 25-11-2017, 11:26 PM
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Here's another option Rob. Still a nice V8 but not so highly strung.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...had=New&page=1
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Old 25-11-2017, 11:34 PM
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Yep, I know it's mad and so I won't be bidding.

Tbh I love my old boxy X trail. No hassle and go anywhere don't worry about it.

However the excess is just tempting to dream about! Bit like barmaids!
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Old 26-11-2017, 08:45 AM
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Rob,
The gearboxes in these are absolute pants.
Good engine though.

Your RS4 B5 idea was better.

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Old 26-11-2017, 09:08 AM
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I was seriously tempted by an rs6 and then started looking at v10 Audi estates. I just love estate cars. I finally realised I just couldn't afford to run any of these cars. I don't have a modern car so I tend to use the blue 240 for long journeys. The red 280 will take its place and be the newest car I own. I do have a van but there's no fun in driving that.
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Old 26-11-2017, 02:30 PM
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Bit of an insight in to this one, to compare the V10 to the V8 is like chalk and cheese. I owned a V8 for many years, but I have driven a few V10 ones and they are totally a different kettle of fish. The V10 is a very under-rated car. A lot of people do not realise the engine was build and designed by Williams the Formula One team. This corresponds when BMW and Williams were in Formula One together.

The engines are actually stamped with Williams' name.

They are pretty reliable, the only thing that normally goes at around 40,000 miles is the valve activators which normally cost about £2,000 to replace, but now VW are actually offering repair kits for £150, which are quite easy to fit.

One of the other faults on them was rod bearings but this was normally caused by people reving cold engines. You can get a kit for about £800 I believe.

If you are looking to buy one make sure it has had the factory recalls, SMG pump, factory cable, valve feed, which only really applied to early cars.

It was quite a very technical engine in its day, as the last ones became camless as it was operated by electronics.

Due to costs, I would be surprised if any manufacturers will ever go down this route again, and this car is well underpriced and has to be a future classic.

Don't ask me how I know, because there are going to be some wise people telling me I am wrong, but I know as my son is a BMW technician and works on these on a regular basis.
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Old 26-11-2017, 03:13 PM
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The V10 is a very under-rated car. A lot of people do not realise the engine was build and designed by Williams the Formula One team. This corresponds when BMW and Williams were in Formula One together.

The engines are actually stamped with Williams' name.

Due to costs, I would be surprised if any manufacturers will ever go down this route again, and this car is well underpriced and has to be a future classic.
I agree with you there, like the Audi RS estates with 'Porsche breath'...even Williams' Clios.

More of a statement from the marque than a money-maker, allc redit to BMW but like a Nissan Stagea, you'd rather have the 2dr version to rag around in.
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Old 26-11-2017, 03:25 PM
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Bit of an insight in to this one, to compare the V10 to the V8 is like chalk and cheese. I owned a V8 for many years, but I have driven a few V10 ones and they are totally a different kettle of fish. The V10 is a very under-rated car. A lot of people do not realise the engine was build and designed by Williams the Formula One team. This corresponds when BMW and Williams were in Formula One together.

The engines are actually stamped with Williams' name.

They are pretty reliable, the only thing that normally goes at around 40,000 miles is the valve activators which normally cost about £2,000 to replace, but now VW are actually offering repair kits for £150, which are quite easy to fit.

One of the other faults on them was rod bearings but this was normally caused by people reving cold engines. You can get a kit for about £800 I believe.

If you are looking to buy one make sure it has had the factory recalls, SMG pump, factory cable, valve feed, which only really applied to early cars.

It was quite a very technical engine in its day, as the last ones became camless as it was operated by electronics.

Due to costs, I would be surprised if any manufacturers will ever go down this route again, and this car is well underpriced and has to be a future classic.

Don't ask me how I know, because there are going to be some wise people telling me I am wrong, but I know as my son is a BMW technician and works on these on a regular basis.
Fantastic insight! What is more of an investment a Datsun Z or one of these? I know which one is less risk.

So guys I mentioned my confusion about the service record. Images are included in the advert pictures.

Ok plenty of stamps but most of the 'record' is what has not been done rather than what has been done. Have a look if you have time please.

Am I missing something?
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