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Old 23-09-2017, 06:07 PM
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Vast over-reaction from people I think on this unsafe car thing ...
Maybe what's most unsafe is the driver. Perhaps regular driver re-test would be a better way to go.
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Old 23-09-2017, 09:08 PM
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Maybe what's most unsafe is the driver. Perhaps regular driver re-test would be a better way to go.
the whole reaction is a little 'daily mail'.
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Old 23-09-2017, 10:00 PM
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This is a huge shake up, you wait and see

A lot of people sweating on this
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Old 24-09-2017, 11:06 AM
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more importantly where is the extra 12 million pounds per year going to be generated for the Mot garages revenue, its gonna hit the smaller ones, as we know who takes there classic to kwik fit euro or halfords for there MOT

I'm not worried I'll just put an old L24 back in the German whip
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Old 25-09-2017, 01:29 PM
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Well it's in the weekly Classic papers now, 40+ year old cars will be exempt from MoT testing from My but the detail about the modified cars will be clarified this November.

I can see the clarification being too difficult and all modified cars will need testing or excluded from 'Historic' status. We will see.

This may open up a 'can of worms' especially with hybrids, their safety and Historic status.
If the MOT is not required for unmodified cars I would think it would be a good and responsible idea for ZClub themselves to come up with a list of relevant inspections and testing that are specific for none-mot Z cars that the car owner can give to a MOT registered garage as a type of annual service on a suggestion / recommendation basis.

On no account could anyone be responsible for anything that is not on the list but would provide a checklist and comfort for none mechanic owners.

As the government says, the car owners of historic cars and clubs know about their own cars more rather than an MOT system which is geared up to cater for modern cars.

What do you think?
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:25 PM
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Bit of an update from the latest FBHVC Newsletter:

The no MoT for Historic Vehicles is now law!

The 'substantial change' situation has yet to be agreed (they said it was to be declared in November). The original thought relating to 15% increase in power/weight has been overtaken by another proposal that anything done pre 1988 is ok. 1988 is 30 years ago and that date would be a 'rolling' date so if you modified your car in 1989 it would be ok after the first year so an MoT next year but not in 2019.

No actual monitoring is proposed of declarations made - so basically if you don't declare mods nobody will check. Insurance?

The level of mods has yet to be agreed.

Anything substantially modified will not lose it's free Historic tax situation.

I think this is shambolic and brought about by people who don't understand the Classic Car world.
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Old 10-12-2017, 04:59 PM
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No it's brought about by people who are currently trying to negotiate BREXIT and look how shambolic that is.
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Old 10-12-2017, 05:08 PM
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No it's brought about by people who are currently trying to negotiate BREXIT and look how shambolic that is.
'cos Brexit IS a shambles - a no-brainer being bribed, propped up and smuggled past parliament - off with her head at the tower for treason !
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Old 18-12-2017, 03:07 PM
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Old 18-12-2017, 04:22 PM
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Perhaps one of the most alarming aspects of this new law is that imports over 40 years old will not require an MOT prior to first registration in the UK.

The MOT test has always been a safety net to ensure a basic standard of roadworthiness for imports. In many years of importing hundreds of cars I can count on one hand the number that have passed an MOT without any work. Even if just swapping over lights work is usually required.

South African cars are often in a very poor condition as they have no regular road tests and cars from the States pretty much the same with emissions seen as the only important consideration on a regular basis.
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Old 18-12-2017, 04:49 PM
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Perhaps one of the most alarming aspects of this new law is that imports over 40 years old will not require an MOT prior to first registration in the UK.

The MOT test has always been a safety net to ensure a basic standard of roadworthiness for imports. In many years of importing hundreds of cars I can count on one hand the number that have passed an MOT without any work. Even if just swapping over lights work is usually required.

South African cars are often in a very poor condition as they have no regular road tests and cars from the States pretty much the same with emissions seen as the only important consideration on a regular basis.
So I can register my shell in theory and get a number plate?
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Old 18-12-2017, 05:16 PM
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So I can register my shell in theory and get a number plate?
YEP!

I think that's great news - as there is nothing worse than building a car you've imported for restoration and then wondering whether or not the DVLA will actually issue you a number plate after you've spent thousands on a rebuild.
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Old 18-12-2017, 05:20 PM
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YEP!

I think that's great news - as there is nothing worse than building a car you've imported for restoration and then wondering whether or not the DVLA will actually issue you a number plate after you've spent thousands on a rebuild.


can you do it all online?
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Old 18-12-2017, 06:21 PM
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No......... not online and DVLA are increasing the number of inspections - sub-contracted to SGS.
I have had two in the last few months never having had any previously.
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Old 18-12-2017, 06:38 PM
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I thought this wasn't coming in until next April. Are you saying we can register them now without an MOT or that yours were inspected even though they were MOT'd?
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