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Old 16-09-2017, 04:43 PM
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The unscrupulous will be dragging cars out of hedges and driving them and worse selling them
They really won't be driving them. But they're for sale NOW already (ebay etc - hedgefind as opposed to the added value barnfind) so I can't see the difference there.
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Old 16-09-2017, 06:54 PM
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Now for all those that want to voluntary MOT there cars if the 40 year old rule happens think again, you probably wont be able to as they will more than likely be removed off of VOSA's database, i tried to take my newly acquired cherry picker for an MOT and it wasn't recognized i then found out it was Mot exempt so he couldn't do it
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Old 16-09-2017, 07:14 PM
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No you could still do it and get a certificate to say it met the standard. That's the smart thing to do anyway as I. Any accident or possible claim situation you're basically demonstrating you Keo the car in a road worthy state
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Old 16-09-2017, 07:14 PM
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Perhaps it's all in advance of stricter MOTs and knowing that older cars'll fail them - think emissions already - all this is a way around 'the problem'....so don't be too harsh on Whitehall.

Just a petty, snidy remark from over here : this is deffo NOT an EU directive; this is your own cosy govt applying sovereignty over it's own loyal citizens.
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Old 16-09-2017, 07:27 PM
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Just a petty, snidy remark from over here : this is deffo NOT an EU directive; this is your own cosy govt applying sovereignty over it's own loyal citizens.
We are so used to blaming the EU whenever new legislation or guidance kicks in. Soon we will have to find another scapegoat
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Old 16-09-2017, 07:32 PM
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We are so used to blaming the EU whenever new legislation or guidance kicks in. Soon we will have to find another scapegoat
What is wrong in blaming your national government like everyone else ?

You've been hoodwinked for so long, conditioned to believ that your poor MPs have their hands tied - there be an awakening men - those that should be accountable to you (the voters) ought to live up to their statuts.

YOU, the great paying and voting public ought to get together (via a motoring organisation not govt affiliated and petition the govt to lay the eff off classic motorists !
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Old 16-09-2017, 07:42 PM
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I wonder if it has anything to do with this -

Earlier in the year my local MOT man mentioned to me that VOSA is making recommendations/rules (can't remember) for testers to have new equipment installed which makes the testing more automated. These machines are more suited for modern vehicles and are less sympathetic to older cars.

Eg, the old fashion wheel play test, done by hand, will be automated... I remember he said that he wonders whether old cars would get damaged by these new procedures.
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Old 17-09-2017, 05:57 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if the insurance companies balk at paying out on claims for cars with no MOT or some kind of certificate of roadworthiness. Either that or the premiums will go up.

I'll still get mine pre-mot'd each year by any garage with staff old enough or confident enough to remember how to do it!
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Old 21-09-2017, 06:56 PM
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Well it's in the weekly Classic papers now, 40+ year old cars will be exempt from MoT testing from My but the detail about the modified cars will be clarified this November.

I can see the clarification being too difficult and all modified cars will need testing or excluded from 'Historic' status. We will see.

This may open up a 'can of worms' especially with hybrids, their safety and Historic status.
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Old 21-09-2017, 07:52 PM
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The fact that they don't know how many modified classics there are, as mentioned in the document, highlights how messy this is going to be. Plus, IMO, if they enforce the 8-point rule, the BIVA is not suitable for classics given it's designed for new cars and kits. Trying to test 40+ year old cars against modern standards will be an impasse in many cases. There will be an outcry and much friction. I can see the basic owner modus operandi reverting to the tried and tested approach to dealing with British bureaucracy- keep them in the dark as much as practically possible!!!
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Old 21-09-2017, 08:00 PM
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I was looking forward to getting my car on the road this winter with some additional mods added but looks like I should be looking at rebuilding it's original L24 and SU carbs..
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Old 21-09-2017, 08:40 PM
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I was looking forward to getting my car on the road this winter with some additional mods added but looks like I should be looking at rebuilding it's original L24 and SU carbs..
Why? Just get it MOT'd... same as it needs currently.
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Old 21-09-2017, 09:04 PM
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Don't fancy losing the historic tax status and gaining a Q plate which is currently being discussed..
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Old 21-09-2017, 09:28 PM
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In the unlikely event that the enforcers and authorities get anal about the modifications, we could see you the market being flooded by RB's, 1Jz's, triple carbs, etc...and the price of Lgata and stock carbs rocket up , as owners ditch the mods so as to avoid being Q plated !

Escort owners must be petrified of the new proposals...!
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Old 21-09-2017, 09:58 PM
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Don't fancy losing the historic tax status and gaining a Q plate which is currently being discussed..
At present, the tax is totally separate from this change. You'll still be tax exempt even if you've modded the car. The issue will be you will still have to have an MOT instead of being exempt. The problem will come in the form of the final wording of their definition of 'substantially changed' and what they do with the database of info on modded cars they build as a result....Edited.

EDIT: see my more recent post based on further reading.

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