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Old 15-09-2017, 05:07 AM
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looks like 40 year rolling mot exemption is coming

https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...toric-interest
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Old 15-09-2017, 07:52 AM
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Surely thats a very bad idea?
Obviously, a lot of classics are owned by enthusiasts who know their car inside out, and can vouch for its safety. But that doesn't include everyone, and the yearly mot is a good time to inspect the underside of the chassis, brake lines and ball joints etc etc.
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Old 15-09-2017, 08:06 AM
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Surely thats a very bad idea?
Obviously, a lot of classics are owned by enthusiasts who know their car inside out, and can vouch for its safety. But that doesn't include everyone, and the yearly mot is a good time to inspect the underside of the chassis, brake lines and ball joints etc etc.
I agree. I just don't understand the logic.
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Old 15-09-2017, 08:11 AM
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Historic/classic cars here were exempt and then they brought in a 5yr MOT. Modern cars here are tested every 2 yrs once they are 4yrs old.

No test is a very bad idea !
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Old 15-09-2017, 08:55 AM
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From what I've read you can voluntarily take your car for a check over which is what I'll be doing
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Old 15-09-2017, 09:14 AM
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This debate has been running for a long time in the FBHVC Newsletter (we are a member).

http://www.fbhvc.co.uk/legislation-a...consultations/

It appears that cars that have been substantially modified will still need an Mot. However non of this is finalised yet. So what does substantially actually mean and will this alert the DVLA to hybrids etc etc.
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Old 15-09-2017, 10:12 AM
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It appears that cars that have been substantially modified will still need an Mot. However non of this is finalised yet. So what does substantially actually mean and will this alert the DVLA to hybrids etc etc.
How will they know if no-one voluntarily takes their car in to be checked ?
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Old 15-09-2017, 10:18 AM
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How will they know if no-one voluntarily takes their car in to be checked ?
A different spin (linked on Z Register Facebook page) is suggesting substantially modified cars could be forced off the road completely. I really hope this isn't the direction of travel however we already know it's much harder to run cars with engine swaps etc in most other European countries so it's not out of the question.

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Old 15-09-2017, 11:07 AM
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Many cars on here exceed the 15% power increase rule
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Old 15-09-2017, 02:03 PM
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Ok so it appears if your classic car is modified beyond the 15% power increase and the 8 point rule, you wont be exempt from the MOT.
So in other words business as usual for us Modified car owners.
Not the end of the world is it?
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Old 15-09-2017, 02:24 PM
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Many cars on here exceed the 15% power increase rule
There are some that exceed 150%

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Ok so it appears if your classic car is modified beyond the 15% power increase and the 8 point rule, you wont be exempt from the MOT.
So in other words business as usual for us Modified car owners.
Not the end of the world is it?
How can that 8 point rule be implemented realistically - axle or transmission for example? So swapping an R180 for an R200, 240 driveshafts for 280ZX etc etc.
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Old 15-09-2017, 03:16 PM
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I'm keeping a close eye on this. I will always MOT the Z every year regardless but the modified part is a bit worrying.
Mine will be quite a bit more than 15% more powerful when it next drives under its own steam!
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Old 15-09-2017, 04:36 PM
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Ok so it appears if your classic car is modified beyond the 15% power increase and the 8 point rule, you wont be exempt from the MOT.
So in other words business as usual for us Modified car owners.
Not the end of the world is it?
But the undertone is that they may cease to be tax exempt as well
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Old 15-09-2017, 05:49 PM
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Given this is a draft, I strongly suspect there will be some strong pushback from the classic/modding industry and community and the final article may be softened/clarified in certain areas. One does have to be vigilant though about the possibility of new hoops to jump through. They will have to create a new class between completely standard cars exempt from MOT and those requiring IVA, otherwise the system will face meltdown. I don't mind having to carry on having my car MOTed, but would be livid if it had to face something like the IVA and/or lose its tax exemption.

It all smacks of bureaucracy unaware of the real world practicalities of their output. They float it out there and then it upsets everyone and they have to "clarify".
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Old 15-09-2017, 06:05 PM
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And on that note, I've just seen something that suggests the 15% figure is subject to change before implementation as part of a revised definition of "substantial change". Looks like it may have been pointed out already that 15% is arbitrarily low. So fingers crossed we see something much higher and more reasonable with respect to other requirements...
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