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Old 10-12-2017, 09:58 AM
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There are a fair amount of companies doing classic 911s, Singer in the US is probably one of the best ones in my opinion!

http://singervehicledesign.com/

There are a few in the UK too including:

https://www.paul-stephens.com/
http://www.stuttgart-classica.co.uk/
http://www.stuttgart-classica.co.uk/...oil-cooler-kit

£2000?

Agreed John....again !
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They look like very nice restomods but with a seriously hefty price tag!
For an £80 grand starting price I'm surprised that a lot of the suspension looks stock (tension rods and rear lower arms)!

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C934502
Yes lovely looking cars but what mechanical spec would you actually get if you went with an £80k budget? Also would it be RHD.

The easiest way of answering of course would be to contact them but I don't want to waste their time and they might think I'm critisising.

Their £25-30k cars looked good buys to me.
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Old 10-12-2017, 12:29 PM
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Rob.

Both cars in their advert and on their stand are RHD. I'm sure they'd do LHD for customer's wishes since most if not all are clean USA bases.

Mechanical spec - well, since they are bespoke, none will be the same and the only way to know would be to ask them......and not us.
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Do you have any links for me the £25k ones Rob? Sounds like a bargain.
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'76 280z ExLHD Red v8 Lexus powered restomod.
'74 260z LHD Restomod just started.
'71 240z LHD zg arched. Still in California.

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Old 10-12-2017, 01:21 PM
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Do you have any links for me the £25k ones Rob? Sounds like a bargain.
John, I said 25-30k. Long gone - a white one and a green one come to mind, you must have seen their early cars on here?
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They did have a lovely orange one for £35k which looked one of the best i've seen. Not sure how much profit there is in that price point though.
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Whilst not cheap they are when you see DB design doing an updated mini with prices starting at 70k

Singer will start at over 500k but then you have VAT to add.

An Eagle Etype will cost you 400k upwards.
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Times have moved on since then Rob so you won’t have the option of an MZR in that price range now. It’s not cheap to have a car fully restored and I think most of us try not to look at the costs. I make sure I never keep receipts and try not to keep track of what I spend.
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'72 240z RHD (4BOA) Painted and waiting assembly.
'72 240z LHD Silver "Rat look" daily runaround.
'76 280z ExLHD Red v8 Lexus powered restomod.
'74 260z LHD Restomod just started.
'71 240z LHD zg arched. Still in California.

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Old 10-12-2017, 04:39 PM
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Times have moved on since then Rob so you won’t have the option of an MZR in that price range now. It’s not cheap to have a car fully restored and I think most of us try not to look at the costs. I make sure I never keep receipts and try not to keep track of what I spend.
I think its a good idea to take ages with a rebuild, faff about loads, let life get in the way, have to put it on ice for a year or two. It was done like that by myself on purpose, so I can't even remember the cost. All part of the plan!

I know what the car cost and thats it.
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Old 10-12-2017, 05:20 PM
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Times have moved on since then Rob so you won’t have the option of an MZR in that price range now. It’s not cheap to have a car fully restored and I think most of us try not to look at the costs. I make sure I never keep receipts and try not to keep track of what I spend.
"Times have moved on since then Rob" - yes at a hell of a pace, that was only about 2 years ago.

My point John was that those cars were nicely restored cars but these cars seem to have lots of money spent on cosmetics like mirrors, centre console, resiting handbrake, instruments, seats etc etc. So as far as I can assume that's where a lot of time and money goes. That was also why I was trying to ascertain the mechanical spec for £80k.

Anyway as usual I'm on a different 'wavelength' than most people.
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Rob - perhaps the price itself is an attractive 'option' ?

For those who want exclusivity and have the money to pay for it.

I wonder how much Andy Zhead was planing to spend ? I remember what JT paid at 4ways back in 1990.

But cost is relative to income, not market value : is £80k expensive to the type of clients for which they're aiming ?
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Rob - perhaps the price itself is an attractive 'option' ?

For those who want exclusivity and have the money to pay for it.

I wonder how much Andy Zhead was planing to spend ? I remember what JT paid at 4ways back in 1990.

But cost is relative to income, not market value : is £80k expensive to the type of clients for which they're aiming ?
What about those who have been 'swindled' by so called 'marque experts'? how much has it ended up costing them?

you can't get away from the fact £80k is a chunk of cash. I'd go for a genuine G-nosed car and a well specced LHD car to go with it.

However I'd also like a 2.6 starion, z3m coupe, 105 junior, rally spec fulvia and my old 968 back so I might not be the best man to judge.
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......Anyway as usual I'm on a different 'wavelength' than most people.
Sean, it's not the cost but what the money pays for. I would pay 80k for Kevin Bristow's ex works rally car because it's Datsun not modern bits.
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Old 10-12-2017, 06:13 PM
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Sean, it's not the cost but what the money pays for. I would pay 80k for Kevin Bristow's ex works rally car because it's Datsun not modern bits.
Rob if you were valuing/buying a car, would you value one thats been period tuned over one thats tuned but using FI/TB and-or modern tuning parts?
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I see an old rally car as very low in value because it's just a poor condition car that had a hard life. I see no value in the fact that it was owned and built by someone well known. It's like buying a painting because it was by someone famous. Overvalued because it by painted by someone. Or an old car that was owned by someone famous. Your not buying the car, your buying an object that was owned by someone and that's the only reason it's expensive. The MZR cars are expensive because of the attention to detail and the striving to take an iconic car and make it "better". The MZR cars of 2 years ago were very nice but not particularly special. They sold for what they were worth but I bet there was no profit in them. In order for MZR to move forward I feel they had to build something special in order to justify the price tag and make their company profitable.

These cars are not for everyone but they are special and way cheaper than the other classic specials out there.
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'72 240z RHD (4BOA) Painted and waiting assembly.
'72 240z LHD Silver "Rat look" daily runaround.
'76 280z ExLHD Red v8 Lexus powered restomod.
'74 260z LHD Restomod just started.
'71 240z LHD zg arched. Still in California.

Go to: www.240z.me.uk to checkout the cars.
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