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Old 11-05-2017, 11:13 PM
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For those who wish to register their cars at my address here and pay NO road tax, offers are invited.
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Old 11-05-2017, 11:35 PM
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You have to 'tax' your car even if it costs nothing to keep a check on MoT and more importantly insurance. The insurance bit is why you can't transfer tax to a new owner anymore - people were buying taxed cars and not insuring them.


Interesting Rob.

I could follow that logic when we had tax discs on display but now we don't and MOTs + insurance are electronic, I think the government has missed a cost saving trick.

When my old A4 got written off by Admiral last summer (hit and run while parked) Lancaster insurance rang me to tell me my premium on the Z just went up 30% even though I had renewed the Z policy 3 months before!!!! So if all those systems are so connected, I struggle to see the point of a paperwork exercise.

My goddam Amsterdam parking ticket found its way to my house in the UK a couple of weeks later!! And we still need to do a bit of paper for zero tax!?

OK this is clearly out of my circle of control or influence so kind of a pointless argument I guess! Rant over, smiley face back on!
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:25 AM
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You can pay your £0 online, no paper required.
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Old 12-05-2017, 07:33 AM
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You can pay your £0 online, no paper required.


Still a hassle though for something that's free...


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Old 12-05-2017, 08:09 AM
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I naively assumed the historic thing would happen automatically, so when i tried to tax the car after it was 40yrs old, i got really frustrated when the online system kept asking for money!
All the info is at the DVLA's disposal, the first registered date is on the V5, and yet i had to 'tell them' it was now historic and then still apply for the free tax!

In a world of online information over load it makes no sense too me, but ho hum
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:33 AM
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You can pay your £0 online, no paper required.


OK so cost of running a process that shouldn't exist - but you get the spirit of what I'm getting at.
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:10 AM
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OK so cost of running a process that shouldn't exist - but you get the spirit of what I'm getting at.
what process shouldn't exist? are you assuming that recording your car as on the road and paying the appropriate fee is only to collect revenue?

Haven't you enjoyed https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk?

If you didn't declare the car on the road or not, should they assume it IS on the road, and so if you don't get an MOT certificate you've committed another offence?
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:40 AM
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Old 12-05-2017, 09:45 AM
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They forgot to include the tub of Vaseline!!!!

The MOT tells the police / DVLA the car is roadworthy, the insurance status tells them if allowed on the road legally covered for accidents. Are we going through this zero tax process for the sake of on road / SORN stats?

It's difficult to see how the zero tax declaration yearly makes any difference. Having an MOT or insurance are computerised and can be correlated / referenced without an additional step of tax declarations!? Am I missing something?
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Old 12-05-2017, 11:26 AM
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Ali, the car only needs to be roadworthy if it is road registered.
It is much cheaper and easier to police an offence of not having an MOT for a road registered car than it is to detect cars on the road that don't have an MOT.
Thus, road registering your zero rated classic car supports keeping your (and my) diesel child killer road tax down.
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