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Old 10-08-2016, 03:56 PM
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New Petrolicious Vid

I know its about a Porsche 912, ( I had one before my first 240) but there are some Z's in the video and its so well shoot and edited, I thought i share it with you all

https://youtu.be/A8ly2hwGFNM
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Old 10-08-2016, 05:42 PM
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mmm nice car but he rambles on a bit. I suppose it's a car you would compare with a 2ltr Fairlady.
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Old 10-08-2016, 08:43 PM
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I suppose it's a car you would compare with a 2ltr Fairlady.
In what sense?
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Old 10-08-2016, 09:32 PM
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In what sense?
I'm thinking it's the smaller capacity, lower powered version of the range. Yes I know it's 4 cylinders and a shorter wheelbase but....

In other words it's the lithe version.
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Old 10-08-2016, 10:21 PM
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I'm thinking it's the smaller capacity, lower powered version of the range. Yes I know it's 4 cylinders and a shorter wheelbase but....

In other words it's the lithe version.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_912

"Concerned that the considerable price increase of a Type 911 with "flat" six-cylinder powerplant over the Type 356 would cost the company sales and narrow brand appeal, in 1963 Porsche executives decided to introduce a new four-cylinder entry-level model........After a six-year absence, the 912 was re-introduced to North America as the 1976 model year 912E (internal factory designation 923) which shared the "G-Series" bodywork with the 911S."

How does THAT compare with Nissan's introduction and evolution of the SP (L) front-engine, rwd convertibles please ?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_912

"Concerned that the considerable price increase of a Type 911 with "flat" six-cylinder powerplant over the Type 356 would cost the company sales and narrow brand appeal, in 1963 Porsche executives decided to introduce a new four-cylinder entry-level model........After a six-year absence, the 912 was re-introduced to North America as the 1976 model year 912E (internal factory designation 923) which shared the "G-Series" bodywork with the 911S."

How does THAT compare with Nissan's introduction and evolution of the SP (L) front-engine, rwd convertibles please ?
I wasn't talking about the convertible, but the S30 Fairlady.
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Old 10-08-2016, 11:08 PM
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I wasn't talking about the convertible, but the S30 Fairlady.
Which had 2x more cylinders and was only sold within the JDM whereas the Porsche was a world-market car ostensibly sold during the production and marketing of the SR (L) 311.
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Old 10-08-2016, 11:16 PM
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I'm thinking it's the smaller capacity, lower powered version of the range.
It's an interesting comparison, but there are other ways of looking at it too. Personally I'd point more specifically at the 'Z-Std' no frills, base model S30-S Fairlady Z as a good comparison for the 912, but the somewhat dumbed-down and softened-up north American market HLS30-U Datsun 240Z with could be in with a good shout too.

Don't forget the fact that there were 2 litre 911s too, and that the unicorn-in-the-room fastest, most powerful, best-equipped and arguably most sporting S30-series Z from launch in 1969 through 1973 also had a 2 litre (but twin cam) engine....

I've been a 911 (and 912) fan since I was a boy, and I'm happy that Nissan took such inspiration from them when they were working on the S30. My favourite Z, the Fairlady Z432-R, was wholly inspired by the 911-R.
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Old 10-08-2016, 11:27 PM
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......My favourite Z, the Fairlady Z432-R, was wholly inspired by the 911-R.
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/hist...ory-12282.html

Please enlarge the above statement - hard to believe that Nissan reacted and produced the PS30-SB so late in the S30s developement and which was rarely competed with outside of Japan.
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:01 AM
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Another fantastic video from Petrolicious.

I've been following the story of the rally prepared 240z on facebook. Its a father son team that finished the rally with a time of 274 hours just 14 hours off the class winning car, which also happened to be a Datsun 240z. Cool place with a great philosophy and interesting cars.

Never get bored of their video's...
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:02 AM
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Please enlarge the above statement.....
My favourite Z, the Fairlady Z432-R, was wholly inspired by the 911-R.

How's that?
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:06 AM
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My favourite Z, the Fairlady Z432-R, was wholly inspired by the 911-R.

How's that?
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Old 11-08-2016, 12:10 AM
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...hard to believe that Nissan reacted and produced the PS30-SB so late in the S30s developement...
911R was what, 1966/7? How was that "so late in the S30s development"...?

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...and which was rarely competed with outside of Japan.
Which has little or no relevance to the point. Nissan had a job in mind for the PZR and created a car to fit the brief laid out by the rules. Job done.
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Old 11-08-2016, 09:53 AM
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Was out in a '72 911T couple months back - was quite fun! Considering the Porsche was 2.4L, the 240Z when the engine was stock felt livelier. Would be interested to have a ride in one of the sportier 911 variants to see the difference
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Old 11-08-2016, 03:05 PM
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Was out in a '72 911T couple months back - was quite fun! Considering the Porsche was 2.4L, the 240Z when the engine was stock felt livelier. Would be interested to have a ride in one of the sportier 911 variants to see the difference
Hmmm, maybe a tired old 911 you were driving

When new in 72 even a 911T bottom of the range Porsche would still outperform a standard 240Z from same year. 0-60 half a second quicker, standing quarter - a second quicker.
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