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Old 16-11-2015, 02:55 PM
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That's because escorts are just common Ford's ��
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Old 16-11-2015, 05:48 PM
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I've been in the S30 scene for quite a while and it does annoy me a little when I see peoples views change as they get older and they try to influence the views of others. In the old days you bought a TR or MG if you were into classic cars and restorations. I bought my first 240z but I was into moding and fast cars that stuck a couple of fingers up at the flat cap brigade. The zed scene was all about moding and not many cars were kept standard.

Build the car as you want to build it and enjoy to the full. That's what I did with my blue one. Remember though, other will have different views and are allowed to express them as they wish on an open forum. I couldn't bring myself to cut off good arches as they are so precious on a UK car but that's just IMO.
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Old 17-11-2015, 05:50 PM
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I've been in the S30 scene for quite a while and it does annoy me a little when I see peoples views change as they get older and they try to influence the views of others........... I couldn't bring myself to cut off good arches as they are so precious on a UK car .....
Some of you (not just John) got a bit personal and all I was saying was don't cut out good arches without due consideration. Anyway John are you agreeing with me or not here?

I wear my flat cap with pride.

Just for the record I like the low, wide look but it's food for thought that these ARE rare cars. To compare them with Escorts is fine but I bet most of the retro-fitted arches are to basic Escorts wanting to be Gp4 lookalikes - we don't have 'basic' Zs. Just look how much standard TwinCam and RSs are worth with original bodywork. Escort Mk1 and Mk2 are my era in fact I was taken out in an RS1600 before they were released and also been driven around Boreham by Mick Jones in a Mk1 RS2000. Plus I toured the AVO department when it was in full flow.

It would be more appropriate to consider cutting arches out of E Types, TR6s, Elans, MGCs etc etc - it's never done is it and they are not as rare as our cars.

When owners fitted replica G Noses and sunroofs they thought they were improving their cars. My blue car has headlamp covers and a rear spoiler - I wish it hadn't.

Lee's car (Vipergts) looks fantastic and the good thing is I was able to buy his steel wheels which are in amazing condition, like the shell.

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Rob. Historic classification from the Government means nothing


After all an Austin Maxi is also a "Historic"
An Austin Maxi is worthy of Classic/Historic status IMO, they were a clever car for their day. The person I bought my first 240Z off had one of the very first 1500 cars, the lad I rallied with lived on a farm and his dad bought one new - we used it as a tow car when rallying (and slept in it!). My dad had a Maxi predecessor an Austin 1800 bought off Terry Watts ex Imp racer, again a useful car but it under-steered like a ship!

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The VED exemption is intended to support classic vehicle, which the Government considers are an important part of the nation’s historical heritage. According to research by the Historic Vehicle Research Institute and the Federation of British Historic Vehicles Clubs, in their publication The British Historic Vehicle Movement: A 4 Billion Hobby, the historic car industry employs about 28,000 people in the UK.


John your 7 cars = about 1400 if the government weren't so understanding.
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Old 17-11-2015, 06:34 PM
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I guess I'm kind of sitting on the fence a little and throwing a few water bombs at people on both sides . I like my blue car but I don't want to try and convince people to do the same. I think it a shame to cut good arches but feel people should be allowed to do just what they want to their cars. What right have I or any of us got to tell others what to do to their cars. There is no governing body and we should not try to be one IMO.
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Old 17-11-2015, 08:48 PM
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I think it a shame to cut good arches but feel people should be allowed to do just what they want to their cars. What right have I or any of us got to tell others what to do to their cars. There is no governing body and we should not try to be one IMO.
100% They own it no one else so what they want to do with it is their choice
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Old 17-11-2015, 09:53 PM
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It would be more appropriate to consider cutting arches out of E Types, TR6s, Elans, MGCs etc etc - it's never done is it and they are not as rare as our cars.

Historic Status:

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The VED exemption is intended to support classic vehicle, which the Government considers are an important part of the nation’s historical heritage. According to research by the Historic Vehicle Research Institute and the Federation of British Historic Vehicles Clubs, in their publication The British Historic Vehicle Movement: A 4 Billion Hobby, the historic car industry employs about 28,000 people in the UK.


John your 7 cars = about 1400 if the government weren't so understanding.
Rob are you reading the historic policy as meaning that if you modify the car, it looses it's heritage and hence VED exemption? I sincerely hope not otherwise more than half of classics would fail the Gaskin test Inc your blue car.
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Old 17-11-2015, 10:18 PM
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!00% They own it no one else so what they want to do with it is their choice
0% agree?

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Old 17-11-2015, 11:11 PM
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0% agree?

oops 100%agree but not with that 0% quote
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Old 18-11-2015, 02:05 PM
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Some of you (not just John) got a bit personal and all I was saying was don't cut out good arches without due consideration. Anyway John are you agreeing with me or not here?

I wear my flat cap with pride.

Just for the record I like the low, wide look but it's food for thought that these ARE rare cars. To compare them with Escorts is fine but I bet most of the retro-fitted arches are to basic Escorts wanting to be Gp4 lookalikes - we don't have 'basic' Zs. Just look how much standard TwinCam and RSs are worth with original bodywork. Escort Mk1 and Mk2 are my era in fact I was taken out in an RS1600 before they were released and also been driven around Boreham by Mick Jones in a Mk1 RS2000. Plus I toured the AVO department when it was in full flow.

It would be more appropriate to consider cutting arches out of E Types, TR6s, Elans, MGCs etc etc - it's never done is it and they are not as rare as our cars.

When owners fitted replica G Noses and sunroofs they thought they were improving their cars. My blue car has headlamp covers and a rear spoiler - I wish it hadn't.
It depends if you give a stuff or not, personally I don't, I love the japanese classic tuning scene and want my car styled in the same vein.
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Old 18-11-2015, 07:16 PM
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new leather covers for seats are here, colour of stitching gives a clue to the future body colour


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Old 18-11-2015, 08:16 PM
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Dave, they look good, are they leather?

I have original seats but the covering is so old it gets damaged very easily - it seems to have gone soft.
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Old 18-11-2015, 08:20 PM
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Yeah they're leather, was only an extra 70 or so to have it over vinyl. They worked out at 360, posted and with the import duty paid, and you can pick the colour of the logo (can be done plain) and stitching 👍


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Old 21-11-2015, 06:09 PM
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They look great Dave, where are they from?
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Old 21-11-2015, 09:20 PM
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I'm guessing they are the ones off eBay that can be ordered either in vinyl or real leather, with different colour stitching and emblem designs. They've been available for ages - you lot who don't live on eBay, I don't know...

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Old 23-11-2015, 07:57 PM
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Yeah, they were off eBay, fitted up one seat and am really chuffed with them, i'll post a pic once the hog rings and pliers I've ordered turn up so I can pull them tight round the bottom and re assemble the seat. Did bit more stripping yesterday, found a little rot along the seam under the door seals, along the top of the sills, but the sills themselves (shockingly) seem solid under where the dodgy (aftermarket?) alloy trims were riveted the full length of them
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