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Old 15-08-2017, 12:12 PM
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[QUOTE=SKiddell;277856]Data rather than subjective opinion is key here
.....all this seasons Time Attack cars (using Trofeo R tyres) are breaking previous seasons lap records with them........previous seasons when tyres were free (anything on MSA list B was allowed)

Go figure[/QUOTE

No doubting your word and their performance but when scragging the last 100ths of a second just isn't important, why spend the extra on the last 5bhp and expensive tyres ?

Track-days for most of us is a few fun days out a year and if a set of tyres lasts two seasons - it's a bonus.
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Old 15-08-2017, 12:15 PM
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Data rather than subjective opinion is key here
.....all this seasons Time Attack cars (using Trofeo R tyres) are breaking previous seasons lap records with them........previous seasons when tyres were free (anything on MSA list B was allowed)

Go figure[/QUOTE

No doubting your word and their performance but when scragging the last 100ths of a second just isn't important, why spend the extra on the last 5bhp and expensive tyres ?

Track-days for most of us is a few fun days out a year and if a set of tyres lasts two seasons - it's a bonus.
Then (by your own volition) just go buy some cheap Nankang never grips....after all
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for most of us is a few fun days out a year
so it doesn't matter end of debate

You can't have it both ways Frenchie,
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Old 15-08-2017, 12:24 PM
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I want it all ways darling !

If I wanted no-grips, I buy a cheap set of remoulded road-tyres.

And it does matter - don't want to look a total ar*e out there being a diplomat for S30s !

I just don't want to spend more than £150 a tyre for what'll be 3-4 outings per year. Ideally <£100 per tyre per year - wear 'em out sticking each year and replace !

Appears complicated to find the right product and especially in the 'right' size !
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Old 15-08-2017, 01:11 PM
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Not sure if this size is any good, but the price seems quite reasonable.

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/motors...FQ2RGwodirkBmg
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225/45/15 medium = £119

Very reasonable.

225/45/16 Soft = £154
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Old 15-08-2017, 02:19 PM
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Old 15-08-2017, 03:26 PM
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Same to you - wierd Celtish swearing....!
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Old 15-08-2017, 04:48 PM
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Old 15-08-2017, 04:50 PM
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I want it all ways darling !

If I wanted no-grips, I buy a cheap set of remoulded road-tyres.

And it does matter - don't want to look a total ar*e out there being a diplomat for S30s !

I just don't want to spend more than £150 a tyre for what'll be 3-4 outings per year. Ideally <£100 per tyre per year - wear 'em out sticking each year and replace !

Appears complicated to find the right product and especially in the 'right' size !
I think I've got the answer for you - buy those remoulds, and stick one of these on each
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-X-Tyre-B...0AAOxy7nNTTmUJ
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Old 15-08-2017, 05:16 PM
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Yes...I know - is there no perception of humour atm ?

But click on their track-day tyres....
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Old 16-08-2017, 04:48 PM
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As mentioned we are using (have to as its a control tyre) the Trofeo R on our Time Attack car and once warm the grip is staggering, takes a couple of laps to warm up but seems to stay on song longer than the R888 which I felt went off quicker, the side wall allows just the right amount of roll off to get the tyre flat on the track but stiff enough to give a really good responsive steering feel

I have also used Pilot sports which were junk in comparison

Data rather than subjective opinion is key here
.....all this seasons Time Attack cars (using Trofeo R tyres) are breaking previous seasons lap records with them........previous seasons when tyres were free (anything on MSA list B was allowed)

Go figure
Indeed. can have all the grip in the world but if its got no feel on the edge then it puts me off instantly. I like to know whats going on. I never got on with P Zeros, do you know what the difference is with Trofeos other than compound?

How long are you getting from a set of Trofeos btw on what usage?

In 14-15in and the size you need you will probably be fairly restricted by choice anyway.
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Old 16-08-2017, 05:35 PM
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. I never got on with P Zeros, do you know what the difference is with Trofeos other than compound?
There are 5 separate Pirelli P Zero tyres, including theTrofeo R according to Google
Pirelli P Zero
Pirelli P Zero Asimmetrico
Pirelli P Zero Nero
Pirelli P Zero Corsica
Pirelli P Zero Trofeo R
Various treads and probably compounds.
As Steve has already indicated we have to run the Trofeo in Time Attack so we have never looked at any other Pirelli.
We have just set about making the Trofeo work on the car. Sean at Pirelli Motorsport is present at most of the rounds and he has helped us in that process.Pressures, spring rates, suspension settings and type of suspension all play a part in setting up a car. There are no general "one setting fits all" answers.

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In 14-15in and the size you need you will probably be fairly restricted by choice anyway.
Skiddell runs 245/45-16s.
No other size needed for us.
We did try some 225/50-16s on the car also but they were not as good (for Steves car)

Different cars and different drivers in different circumstances will need a different tyre solution.
So "tyres by internet discussion" will never give Sean the answer he wants.
It does fill up pages on the forum tho.
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Old 16-08-2017, 06:58 PM
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Different cars and different drivers in different circumstances will need a different tyre solution.
So "tyres by internet discussion" will never give Sean the answer he wants.
It does fill up pages on the forum tho.
Exactly Pete (thanks for your input), however I think for this "Sunday Schumacher", I can find a decent compromise between price, size, grip and wear....I remain foraging....
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Well Sean, you got pretty much all the answers/choices here so really it is all down to the balance of budget and choice
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Old 17-08-2017, 09:12 PM
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Well Sean, you got pretty much all the answers/choices here so really it is all down to the balance of budget and choice
Yep !

Firstly I think that I'm going to buy myself a set of 8x16 wheels which'll open a wider choice of tyre and I'll reduce the profile so that as a semi-slick, there'll be less 'roll' without harming the chassis.

I thank also those discreet heroes that have PM-ed me.
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