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DJZ 60

Well-Known Forum User
The picture does'nt show his luminous underpant's ! these light up,& have a built in sequencer, which in turn, gives him a tickling sensation. This notify's him
to move his right leg,followed by his left ( He has learnt to move his hand's
at random ) The flourescent waistcoat,warn's other's to stay clear,of those
steel capped dancing clogg's,which can do some damage due to lack of rhythm
& coordination.

P.s Not everybody get's access to the Z mag ( Member's only)
Any chance of ' that picture' on this forum?????? DJZ 60.:rolleyes:
 

DJZ 60

Well-Known Forum User
P.s Sean, I'll read Steve's biography when he write's it...........DJZ 60.:cool:

P.s Qunvat's having a bath.......................
 

parmenter

Well-Known Forum User
What To Do

I must hold my hand up & say maybe i do not do enough anymore no excuses blah!blah! but can we not use the wonderful web site that alot of people use to sell things on around the world to sell old mags etc.??? especially the shop merchandise aswell over the years i have collected many items incl lots of mags etc which i have sold on etc not sure how much revenue this would generate but you have a world wide audience just like our website!!!!!! but can we not charge extra for using the website???? or is that a sore point???? but putting up membership not a problem really with me .I think that basically the membership drops because just like the cars we mature!!!! if thats a good word but the older cars are now not many so membership will drop & like others who are lucky enough to own other vehicles i try & input on all the forums but this is sometimes very difficult , do we not get any revenue from using the web site????? not sure how it works ,someone will enlight me
 

Russ

Club Member
Revenue from the site is building, come end of this year it should pay for itself easily. This is in the form of advertisement, traders forums, ultimately a donate button as people keep requesting and an online shop at some point no doubt.
 

STEVE BURNS

Club Member
there is three new companies now very interested in having thier own section and banner

once Russ is free from boring uni finals about two weeks now he will be getting them sorted
 

Russ

Club Member
Unfortunately its just my dissertation thats to be handed in, and I have a count down program I wrote, 20 days, 14 hours, 26 minutes and 45 seconds till hand in. Then I'll have 3 days off and sort these ere banners, then I have 3 exams, final date, the last school thing I will do for the rest of my life is June 6th, finish 11:30. Then I'll celebrate my birthday late and have the rest of June is Z month for me :)

Will have the whole site twice as good come July promise.
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
DJ,

There are better photos than that - the dance finished in a strip-tease ! You'll need to bribe Steve Lack with more than I am each month to keep them quiet !
And no, I wasn't drunk - who needs it when life is excitement enough ?
If Steve wrote his biography, wouldn't that be an auto-biography ? And besides, a bit late now ! Read it - I urge you, a few surprises there !

Is 50 quid per year really excessive ? One tank-full of fuel, that's going to last you, what, 200 miles in a Z ? And then you've got to fill up again, and again....
A membership fee lasts for a whole year and gives us access to this fine site, meeting fellow Zedders, access to second-hand cars/parts for sale, advice and of course those traders specific to our cars !

Yes, The Z Club has missed out on the majority of Z32s and just about all the Z33s, meaning that there are no 'newcomers' to replace natural 'fall-out' - cars getting scrapped, owners no longer club orientated (perhaps what Pete P meant by 'maturing- no chance of that for us mate ;-), owners selling their cars on to others without informing them of the club and its' benefits.......

So, what to do ? Charge for site access, charge more BUT offer more ! Ie, improve the quality of service - how to improve service ???????
 

Steve J

Well-Known Forum User
Phew!

Ive read most of the thread but Im not sure how much has gone in:unsure:
How ever, my observations......

Being able to join/subscribe on line could certainly up the amount of paying members as I think people often act on impulse and may change their minds before they fill in and post an application and they may never know what they're missing.;) I personally would like to be able to re-new on line as I think Mr Kemp usually has to send me a reminder?(most people who want money from me do)which obviously inccurs postage costs for the club.

Though I feel the club membership is worth alot more than we pay I think to increase the cost would make joining less attractive to people who have never sampled the delights.:D

Not only does having help, advice and technical information attract people
but a bit of chit chat (the crack) is also good. I have probably visited here every day since I discovered it a couple of weeks ago (thanks pmac) and considering the amount of members it seems that only a hand full of people regularlary post here.
So come on guys and gals give us a post, even if this post comes over as the ramblings of a mad man it will have entertained someone.:p
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
I agree with the online registration (and paying) - although I pay mine since a while on standing order - costs less for the club to send out a reminder too :)

Put up the fees ! Been too cheap for years !
 

Russ

Club Member
I think we need to concentrate on value added stuff for the club first (me sorting the site over the Summer for instance), then when we have something (more) to market before we can increase fees.

How much of an affect would £30 membership have? I'm guessing we have 450 paid members, so figures would roughly be

£26 (current) membership x 450 members = £11700

£30 membership x 450 = £13500
£1800 gained, if we lost 60 members (due to price hike) we are back at £11700

£35 membership x 450 = £15750
£4050 gained, lose 115 members to nullifying

£40 membership x 450 = £18000
£6300 gained, lose 157 members to nullifying

£45 membership x 450 = £20250
£8550 gained, lose 190 members to nullifying

£50 membership x 450 = £22500
£10800 gained, lose 216 members to nullifying, only 200 of us left and what a sad little club that would be :(
Just some figures to start with...

I think £35 looks reasonable? Maybe we'll make it like golf membership, £800 a year or so and then we can get by with about 15 of us, and we'd have about 50 mags each :p

I think given value added bits on the site, maybe more shop merchandise at reduced rates for members??, a thriving traders section and such we could easily justify £35.
 

STEVE BURNS

Club Member
Just looked in at our links page to see what other clubs on there charge and it is as follows



Skylines £40

GTO £30

RX8 £31 1st year and £26 renewal

Z Club £26

RX7 £25 1ST year and £20 renewal

Celica £20

MR2 FREE

Supra FREE

Scooby FREE



What is noticeable is that we are the only club on there that caters for different models and in one way it is our weakness as what appeals to one model’s owner doesn’t appeal to another ie almost all 300ZX and 350Z owners are not interested in how to restore a earlier generation Z and the earlier generation Z owners are not all interested

in group buys for the later cars.



My own view is that to increase the membership fee at the moment would see us just raising the fee to stay at the same level of income due to the number of members we would lose,



Whilst I would think 95% of the paid up members who use this site would willingly pay the increase my concern is the 350 other club members who do not visit this site at all and it is there that I feel that the decrease in membership would occur.



The future of the club is this place and we must all work at making it a place that attracts owners of all Zs firstly to visit and secondly to make sure their interest is wetted enough to visit again and then realise that if they don’t join up they are missing out big time



Roll on end off June so that the alterations to the way this forum works come into place and people then will want to become a paid up member of the club
 

DJZ 60

Well-Known Forum User
I agree with what you are saying Steven,& it's great to see some input & post's
from character's who are increasing their input on the forum,Most especially
the 300 ZX crew etc. It is interesting, The Question is:What's missing..?:cool:
 

Steve J

Well-Known Forum User
DJZ 60 said:
I agree with what you are saying Steven,& it's great to see some input & post's
from character's who are increasing their input on the forum,Most especially
the 300 ZX crew etc. It is interesting, The Question is:What's missing..?:cool:
DJZ 60 I 'm not sure whats missing. but I'll gladly help to find it.

Russ has shown how the numbers work which is interesting and Steve's membership stats show that Subaru etc sites are free, maybe this is because these cars have a high ownership turnover and therefore a high membership turnover? Having mused over this for most of the day I am coming to the conclusion that our cars that are from 30 years old to the present day :S30: :280Z: :Z31: :Z32: :350Z: and can be considered true classics probably have a more loyal following than most and can maybe command a higher membership fee.
What ever happens the Z club can continue to rely on my subs going in for a 4th year.
(only my mother calls me Stephen and thats when I'm in trouble):D
 

Russ

Club Member
I think it is a case of whats missing, or what can be improved. Increasing membership fees maybe fair, but almost seems like a bodged solution to the current situation.

So the majority of members we're looking to attract are Z32 and Z33 right? Thats where the numbers are.

What are we missing that they want?

Decent traders section in progress, should be up to scratch before end of this month.
 

DJZ 60

Well-Known Forum User
Hi Steve J,
I do apologise for sounding 'motherly' , I should have clarified & I
was addressing my post to the right honourable Mr. Steven Burn's,whose
mother used to call him stephanie:) ,soZ,for confusion..I shall try to narrow
down whom I am talking to. Excellent input from yourself,admirable for your
remedial suggestion's,keep up the input...Regard's.......DJZ 60.

Russ, Open suggestion's to what maybe attractive for forum user's,what do
user's like,would like to see more of,what is on other forum's that maybe
lacking on our's. This is not to say our Forum is inferior or lacking,only that
competition demand's all to be on their toe's........:cool:
 

rocketrob

Active Forum User
Read through most of this thread and had to add,

SXOC £15.
MR2OC £5.
Club S12 $5.
To hike the price is a bad move. All members should try to more pro active and approach other owners. The club may need to look at other ways to promote it's activities and even try new activities to attract new members. I might be new around here but I have been actively involved in car clubs for many years. I go to JapUK meets in my local area and you would be amazed at the different cars that arrive. Usually 6 or 7 Z's out of 80 or so cars. The SXOC have regional meets that are attended by 30 to 40 cars every month. You could try increasing the number of regional groups and start inter region competions, karting, orienteering and trackdays. It all helps to promote the club. :)
 

SeanDezart

Well-Known Forum User
Steven BURNS,

All these clubs quoted do have one thing in common - they're all one car clubs ! Yes, our club caters for different models but then how many of us posess more than one model ? I can only speak for me, but I'm just as interested (now) in Z31 info as 280 as 240 !
The fact that the latter has been around longer and was the first mould from which the others sprung forth and is currently the only model being raced (other than the Drag challenge Mr F.) means that I talk more on that models' subject - because there are more poeple talking about it !

So the 280 ZX owners and Z31s need to chat more ? Maybe someone should be out there racing one, why doesn't the club seriously help someone to promote these 'ugly sisters' to race and therefore attract more interest on this site and in the press, and therefore more members ? A hike price to 35 or 40 quid would go a long way to starting a club racer and all the parts are homologated - who wants to check out in which series the car (s) would race ?

On the subject of the 350 members who aren't on this site and therefore not privy to what is discussed, when is the club going to send out a questionnaire to each (non-website ?) member asking a whole series of ALL these pertinent questions ? Might learn something !
 
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