Track-day tyres

SeanDezart

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I doubt you'll get them in your size though.

There lies the problem - I probably would buy some (even though they are cheaper and my pet-race engineer said you get what you paid for....) so unless I fit 17 or 18 wheels or happy to run 185s, I'm fooked - is that it ?
 

jonbills

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They come with stereo and aircon. But if you aspire to a Corolla, so be it
 

SeanDezart

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They come with stereo and aircon. But if you aspire to a Corolla, so be it

Didn't think that the MR2 came std with the serious engine - thought it was a swap !

For info, the MR2 is marketed here as an MR 'cos emmerdeur (MR2 pronounced correctly in French) means "a pain in the neck/a*se" !
 

istoo

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888s get raves about they come with sod all tread and never lasted me long.

I had federal RSRs for 2 seasons, rated these well. Federal do a sale once a year usually around 30-40% off and they making a cracking buy.

Favourites for me are Yokohama AD07s, i found these really progressive, lasted for ages and even adored pretty well in the wet.

Full slicks are even grippier still, but unless you have a full race car setup they will be really hard on your suspension, bushes etc

None of above I have had on the 240z, not had it long but sizes will restrict choice, if Yokohamas are available they seem somehow apt!

Avon ZZRs were really popular with the lotus guys as well


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SeanDezart

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I think it comes down to :

Track-only or track/route compromise (and I mean semi-slicks for each application)
Available size
Price
Durability desired
 

johnymd

Club Member
So, as a direct alternative to the R888R, the AR-1 looks a very good option so this may be the way forward for the blue car.

For the silver one then the federal 595 RSR looks like a cheap allrounder at under £60 each. Just need to sort through my collection of wheels to find some 15".
 

johnymd

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Kumho V70a in the same size as listed about come out at £140 each so they are at the top of the ones I listed.

P Zero Trofeo R £222 each !!!!! Just a little outside my price range.
 

istoo

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good shout, I never ran the Kumho V70a,s but they were popular also, especially with the Subaru/Evo types who used them regularly.

The yokohama's AD07s lasted so long it was hard to complain. They never went off at all, did a 2 hour session, no stops. never went off at all. Then drove 3 hours home with the same tyres, had to pick off a few blobs of rubber but otherwise they were superb. They werent overly dear either. AD048s are slightly softer but i dont think they are road legal, look similar in build and style to 888s

Trofeo R, never had pockets deep enough! they come on super/hyper cars as standard. in a similar place to the Michelin Super Sports, had those, I am not overly convinced, used on the fast german things as standard. Good for a road car, but ultimately on track you are going to be pushing the sidewalls hard, so a good structure will help. P Zeros go off REAL quick, 4 laps and they were gone. A descent track tyre will stop that happening. If you do use track tyres, please make sure you have brake fluid and pads to match. The loads on a track are a lot higher and more sustained than on the road.

The bigger question is are you looking for a trackday/road tyre that you can use for both or do you have spare wheels and tyres for trackdays?
 

istoo

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following this closely as i am thinking about a semi track tyre / wheel.
On that note, what wheels and diameters are you chaps running?
 

SeanDezart

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The bigger question is are you looking for a trackday/road tyre that you can use for both or do you have spare wheels and tyres for trackdays?

Personally, I'll have a second set of rims for track-days as I've run R888s as my only tyre - no real complaints except that I don't need the dry grip they afford, in the wet it's like on a knife's edge and they obviously wear out between track-days which are their 'raison-d'être' !

So, a decent, occasional track-day only tyre for me - no slicks as my car isn't and won't be set up for them.

Current rims are 8x15" although I wouldn't mind changing to 8x16s if the tyre choice demands it.
 

SKiddell

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Trofeo R, never had pockets deep enough! they come on super/hyper cars as standard. in a similar place to the Michelin Super Sports, had those, I am not overly convinced, used on the fast german things as standard. Good for a road car, but ultimately on track you are going to be pushing the sidewalls hard, so a good structure will help. P Zeros go off REAL quick, 4 laps and they were gone. A descent track tyre will stop that happening. If you do use track tyres, please make sure you have brake fluid and pads to match. The loads on a track are a lot higher and more sustained than on the road.
As mentioned we are using (have to as its a control tyre) the Trofeo R on our Time Attack car and once warm the grip is staggering, takes a couple of laps to warm up but seems to stay on song longer than the R888 which I felt went off quicker, the side wall allows just the right amount of roll off to get the tyre flat on the track but stiff enough to give a really good responsive steering feel

I have also used Pilot sports which were junk in comparison

Data rather than subjective opinion is key here
.....all this seasons Time Attack cars (using Trofeo R tyres) are breaking previous seasons lap records with them........previous seasons when tyres were free (anything on MSA list B was allowed)

Go figure
 
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