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Hi all thought i would put a picture up of my Datsun 240z at Queens Square Meet Bristol
 

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Woody928

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That looks stunning! :thumbs: Love the colour and wheel combo.

What are the wheels? and what are the wheel and tyre specs out of curiosity?

Also is that actually a Fairlady car being a LHD? (excuse my ignorance if there is an obvious reason for this, however I'm new to all of this)
 

richiep

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I can answer that last bit as I've seen the car when Chris was selling it - no it's not a FairladyZ, it's just got the emblems on it. It's a Euro-spec LHD car that happened to live it's life out in the US. nice car it is too.
 

Woody928

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I can answer that last bit as I've seen the car when Chris was selling it - no it's not a FairladyZ, it's just got the emblems on it. It's a Euro-spec LHD car that happened to live it's life out in the US. nice car it is too.

Thanks for answering, I'm guessing it would have been a French or German market car then etc? Certainly looks the business, Red is one of my favorite colours on these :D

Rota RKR finished in flat black
15x7
215x60 Falken rubber
;)

Thank you! :thumbs: Out of curiosity is there a difference between 'Matt Black' and 'Flat black'?

Also I've just bought a 240z with 16x7 Panasport rims on it. Do you know what the biggest size rubber I can get away with is on stock arches?
 

status

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I have 225 s on mine,should be ok,think they are 55s,depending on brand of tyre also and if the car is standard height,I'm running toyos,on my 2nd set,really suit the car
 

chrisvega

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Thanks for answering, I'm guessing it would have been a French or German market car then etc? Certainly looks the business, Red is one of my favorite colours on these :D



Thank you! :thumbs: Out of curiosity is there a difference between 'Matt Black' and 'Flat black'?

Also I've just bought a 240z with 16x7 Panasport rims on it. Do you know what the biggest size rubber I can get away with is on stock arches?

Rota colour is matt black, not flat black but same thing yep.

I can see you are a man with immense style and taste Woody :D
Here is a picture of my red restomod 240Z Turbo

16x7 Panasports with 225x50 Michelins
Not factory ride height and on Tokico shocks/Eibach springs but arches not rolled

 

chrisvega

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Thanks for answering, I'm guessing it would have been a French or German market car then etc? Certainly looks the business, Red is one of my favorite colours on these :D

OPs car was destined for European market but never actually delivered there.
First owner/buyer lived in San Francisco and his brother in law was the Nissan export manager for Europe, hence he found him a Euro spec. car and delivered it new to States as a grey market import.

In those early days there was a good few months waiting list at the US Datsun dealerships so people obtained their Zs through whatever means they could.

It would not have been bound for German market as they did not start imports until at least 1972 and it is an earlier car than that with the rear hatch vents - maybe meant for France or Belgium, who knows, speculation ?
 

status

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Just checked mine,running on 225-50-16s Toyo tyres,this size keeps the speedo true,see my gallery to see how it sits
 

Woody928

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Rota colour is matt black, not flat black but same thing yep.

I can see you are a man with immense style and taste Woody :D
Here is a picture of my red restomod 240Z Turbo

16x7 Panasports with 225x50 Michelins
Not factory ride height and on Tokico shocks/Eibach springs but arches not rolled

Thanks for clarifying, may consider getting my panasport rims done in Matt Black, you hear both variants thrown around, just never knew if they were at all different.

Haha your car looks stunning! I've got to burst your bubble I'm afraid as I've just picked up a series one car in 918 orange which I will have to say tops red! lol Not that I'm biased or anything, they are my favourite two colours though.

Great thats what I wanted to hear, my car coming has Michelin Harmony 205 55 16 all season radial tyres on at the moment, however I'm just not sure they'll be up to the job so was hoping to hear 225's would be possible and get some Yokohama or Toyo rubber on there instead. Long term would love a set of RS Watanabe R-Type 15x8 rims but they're massive bucks unfortunately. That being said the panasports that its got aren't cheap either from what I've seen.

OPs car was destined for European market but never actually delivered there.
First owner/buyer lived in San Francisco and his brother in law was the Nissan export manager for Europe, hence he found him a Euro spec. car and delivered it new to States as a grey market import.

In those early days there was a good few months waiting list at the US Datsun dealerships so people obtained their Zs through whatever means they could.

It would not have been bound for German market as they did not start imports until at least 1972 and it is an earlier car than that with the rear hatch vents - maybe meant for France or Belgium, who knows, speculation ?

Thanks for the info, that's a pretty cool story. Its awesome to hear that there are cars with history like this still running and in great shape :D I'm sure the owner may reveal in due course, amazing how its ended up in the UK now as well. I wonder whether it will ever make it to the market it was originally intended for....

Just checked mine,running on 225-50-16s Toyo tyres,this size keeps the speedo true,see my gallery to see how it sits

Thanks dude, sits really nicely in the pics. Sounds like the way to go to me, should give a nice extra bit of grip :driving:

Question for you both, what's the ride like with that wheel and tyre spec? (apologies for all the questions and slight thread hijack)
 

chrisvega

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Thanks for the info, that's a pretty cool story. Its awesome to hear that there are cars with history like this still running and in great shape :D I'm sure the owner may reveal in due course, amazing how its ended up in the UK now as well. I wonder whether it will ever make it to the market it was originally intended for....

My company vegaclassics.co.uk imported the car from States and sold it to OP (Scott) hence the story from me ;)

Question for you both, what's the ride like with that wheel and tyre spec? (apologies for all the questions and slight thread hijack)

Although looks fairly standard from outside, red car in pic with 16 inch Panaports is far from it under skin hence called it a restomod. Has 3.7LSD from 89 300Z Turbo, 81 280Z turbo halfshafts, 5 way adjustable struts, Eibach progressive rate springs, MSA front and rear sway bars, urethane bushes

Ride is great, main thing you will notice when you first drive your Z is how heavy the steering is compared to modern cars. You can skip your session at the gym after an hour or so behind the wheel. The wider the tyre you put on, the heavier it is at low speeds, once on the move you don't notice it as much. I would say 225/50/16 is a good all round choice and as Paul/Status says keeps the speedo accurate.

Standard cars came with 185R14 profile tyres and having driven cars with these tyres on original dealer fit slots they require slightly less effort to manouvre.
 

uk66fastback

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Mine's got the dealer added slots from new and wears 195 tyres and it's fine at parking speeds ...

I fitted my old fastback with rack and pinion steering when it was rebuilt and then when I'd put the 225 rubber band tyres on the 17" wheels, all sitting under a big 347 V8, I wished I'd bought the power version!
 

Woody928

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My company vegaclassics.co.uk imported the car from States and sold it to OP (Scott) hence the story from me ;)

Just had a look at your website, you certainly get some really interesting machinery through! Love the Porsche 356, Citroen DS and Alpha Romeo Junior, I bet it never gets boring with cars like that coming through. Without wishing to be rude, would you be willing to share what price the car was advertised for? I'm trying to get a grasp for the UK market and work out a value for my insurance. (Please feel free to PM me should you prefer).

Although looks fairly standard from outside, red car in pic with 16 inch Panaports is far from it under skin hence called it a restomod. Has 3.7LSD from 89 300Z Turbo, 81 280Z turbo halfshafts, 5 way adjustable struts, Eibach progressive rate springs, MSA front and rear sway bars, urethane bushes

Ride is great, main thing you will notice when you first drive your Z is how heavy the steering is compared to modern cars. You can skip your session at the gym after an hour or so behind the wheel. The wider the tyre you put on, the heavier it is at low speeds, once on the move you don't notice it as much. I would say 225/50/16 is a good all round choice and as Paul/Status says keeps the speedo accurate.

Standard cars came with 185R14 profile tyres and having driven cars with these tyres on original dealer fit slots they require slightly less effort to manouvre.

Restomod is the plan for me so I completely sympathize, I've got alot to do on my list long term! Sounds like a really good spec for fast road use. More curious from the tyre profile perspective as I've got an MR2 with fast road/track spec suspension and the low profile tyres make it slightly harsher than I would like sometimes, then again the handling more than makes up for it.

I've driven my dads 1962 Austin Healey so I've got a fair idea of what to expect I think (some vague idea what I'm letting myself in for! lol). I think I would compromise for the wider rubber if it meant more grip, I imagine it makes a big difference over the 205 alternatives performance wise. Keeping the correct rolling radius and speedo correct is a big bonus as well. Sounds like parking will be fun, my old man's just told me to get it rolling slightly and life becomes a lot easier.

So excited for it to arrive and just get out a drive it! :driving:
 

chrisvega

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Just had a look at your website, you certainly get some really interesting machinery through! Love the Porsche 356, Citroen DS and Alpha Romeo Junior, I bet it never gets boring with cars like that coming through. Without wishing to be rude, would you be willing to share what price the car was advertised for? I'm trying to get a grasp for the UK market and work out a value for my insurance. (Please feel free to PM me should you prefer). :

I've never quite understood how the self certified valuation scheme works with classic insurance but you obviously want it to be as high as you can blag. I would say you should be looking at an insurance value of at least £ 20k, maybe try for £ 25k.

The last two lhd cars sold were both comfortably less than the lower figure above and top top condition cars but you want to be on the right side of equation if you ever have to replace a car and prices are not coming down.
 

Farmer42

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.......... I'm trying to get a grasp for the UK market and work out a value for my insurance. .....:

Mike Harris (Moggy240) is the Z Club valuations officer and can give you a valuation if you provide him with details & pics etc. You can then send it to your insurance company to get an agreed valuation which quite a few of them want anyway.
 

Woody928

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Thanks for the advise, I was thinking somewhere between that for an early production car so glad to hear I'm in the right ball park. Thank you for your honesty its good to hear some recent feedback from someone who's got current market knowledge. It sounds like overall I'm in the right place, unfortunately Brexit caught me at the wrong time which has stung us however I'm hoping it still should be worth more than we paid.

Thanks for the info, Mike has in fact dropped me a PM I believe. I'm just waiting to get the car so that I've all of the paperwork/info and can take some decent pics before dropping him a message to get it sorted. It makes sense as it leaves both parties with a sense of security, just need to be sure to update it every year. I always like to get as many opinions as possible, particularly from those who have recent sales knowledge....
 
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