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looks like 40 year rolling mot exemption is coming

Discussion in 'Anything and everything' started by slaphead, Sep 15, 2017.

  1. slaphead

    Z Club Member

  2. Dave B

    Dave B
    Z Club Member

    Surely thats a very bad idea?
    Obviously, a lot of classics are owned by enthusiasts who know their car inside out, and can vouch for its safety. But that doesn't include everyone, and the yearly mot is a good time to inspect the underside of the chassis, brake lines and ball joints etc etc.
  3. Paul_S

    Z Club Member

    I agree. I just don't understand the logic.
  4. SeanDezart

    SeanDezart Official Trader

    Historic/classic cars here were exempt and then they brought in a 5yr MOT. Modern cars here are tested every 2 yrs once they are 4yrs old.

    No test is a very bad idea !
  5. Red7

    Red7 New Forum User

    From what I've read you can voluntarily take your car for a check over which is what I'll be doing :driving:
  6. Rob Gaskin

    Rob Gaskin Membership Secretary Staff Member

    This debate has been running for a long time in the FBHVC Newsletter (we are a member).


    It appears that cars that have been substantially modified will still need an Mot. However non of this is finalised yet. So what does substantially actually mean and will this alert the DVLA to hybrids etc etc.

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  7. SeanDezart

    SeanDezart Official Trader

    How will they know if no-one voluntarily takes their car in to be checked ?
  8. madda

    madda Forum User

    A different spin (linked on Z Register Facebook page) is suggesting substantially modified cars could be forced off the road completely. I really hope this isn't the direction of travel however we already know it's much harder to run cars with engine swaps etc in most other European countries so it's not out of the question.

  9. SKiddell

    SKiddell Having a bad day

    Many cars on here exceed the 15% power increase rule
  10. racer

    racer Active Forum User

    Ok so it appears if your classic car is modified beyond the 15% power increase and the 8 point rule, you wont be exempt from the MOT.
    So in other words business as usual for us Modified car owners.
    Not the end of the world is it?
  11. Rob Gaskin

    Rob Gaskin Membership Secretary Staff Member

    There are some that exceed 150%

    How can that 8 point rule be implemented realistically - axle or transmission for example? So swapping an R180 for an R200, 240 driveshafts for 280ZX etc etc.
  12. Russell

    Z Club Member

    I'm keeping a close eye on this. I will always MOT the Z every year regardless but the modified part is a bit worrying.
    Mine will be quite a bit more than 15% more powerful when it next drives under its own steam!
  13. SKiddell

    SKiddell Having a bad day

    But the undertone is that they may cease to be tax exempt as well
  14. richiep

    Z Club Member

    Given this is a draft, I strongly suspect there will be some strong pushback from the classic/modding industry and community and the final article may be softened/clarified in certain areas. One does have to be vigilant though about the possibility of new hoops to jump through. They will have to create a new class between completely standard cars exempt from MOT and those requiring IVA, otherwise the system will face meltdown. I don't mind having to carry on having my car MOTed, but would be livid if it had to face something like the IVA and/or lose its tax exemption.

    It all smacks of bureaucracy unaware of the real world practicalities of their output. They float it out there and then it upsets everyone and they have to "clarify".
  15. richiep

    Z Club Member

    And on that note, I've just seen something that suggests the 15% figure is subject to change before implementation as part of a revised definition of "substantial change". Looks like it may have been pointed out already that 15% is arbitrarily low. So fingers crossed we see something much higher and more reasonable with respect to other requirements...
  16. Tony 260Z

    Tony 260Z
    Z Club Member

    Hmmmm.... apart from it being a stupid idea I smell a rat...

    Yes, a lot of classic owners know their cars inside out but would they all spot a potentially dangerous situation developing? And how many either don't know or don't bother to check?

    How many fatal accidents will it take before xyz Government says "all classics must be dangerous and they're unkind to polar bears and they're modified in an unsafe manner so we're banning the lot"?
  17. Rob Gaskin

    Rob Gaskin Membership Secretary Staff Member

  18. racer

    racer Active Forum User

  19. IbanezDan51

    Z Club Member

    Although I'm sure not all owners are the same I'm very confident that I'd more likely spot something wrong with my car if it were developing than a local MOT tester would - most of them are useless.
  20. Jimbo

    Jimbo 1978 260z in yellow

    surely your insurance requires a valid MOT certificate as a basic requirement to be able to insure you?
    i cant see any insurance company paying out if in the event of an accident if the car hadn't been tested for safeties sake.
    like many people have allready stated, im not concerned about car enthusiasts, but i am worried about people who wanna drive a classic and not have to pay for tax and mot who also wont look after the car (you know the sort of people who take cars to garages when it starts making a noise).

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