Rally car at auction

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jonbills

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See if you can get the VIN number off it John
That does seem a very low guide price compared to some of the figures we hear.
 

JK240

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That's not a reserve figure JK and the guide is not sensible IMO much too cheap unless it's a rolling shell!

Depends on the auction house Rob, most reserves are usually somewhere between lower and upper estimates....but it does look value.
 

richiep

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Agree it looks silly cheap for a rally-prepped car. Still, this will be interesting to see how it goes. There's increasing chatter about the classic market stalling, cars not selling, prices facing resistance. This could be an interesting bellweather in a Z context.
 

JK240

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Quoted on the original thread I saw on Facebook when I mentioned it being a low estimate, typically it's a bit early for me, if this was February I'd be heading to Essex for a bid....!

"And all ECCA estimates encompass the vendors reserve ��"
 

Rob Gaskin

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Quoted on the original thread I saw on Facebook when I mentioned it being a low estimate, typically it's a bit early for me, if this was February I'd be heading to Essex for a bid....!

"And all ECCA estimates encompass the vendors reserve ��"

Thanks Jonathan.
 

johnymd

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I've bought a car from this auction before and attended to show support for an up and coming auction house that is owned by a friend of a friend. Initially a lot of the cars were part of the owners private collection and some were sold at well below the value in order to get the business off the ground. It has now grown a bit so prices are on the up but I still believe its the place to find a bargain. I'll be going to look at a couple of lots for a friend.

I believe there will be a lot of interest in the zed and it will sell for its market value (Whatever that is!).
 

Rob Gaskin

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My 'gut' feeling is that a 'proper' rally car should fetch at least £30k. This is a proper car i.e. it can be driven in anger on a forest stage rally. My 'regularity rally car' can be driven on an event like the Historic Monte. It doesn't have the ride height, suspension travel, tank/exhaust protection, rear brakes, lighting etc that a forest rally car needs.

However this car will have had a hard life (I have seen it on a rally) and I know it's had a heavy front-end argument with a tree so it has been repaired. If someone wants to 'stage' rally one of these then it's a very good starting point.

The guy interested in my car wants to do regularity (HERO) events and my car would be perfect for him (which he knows) however the 'estimate' is the draw with this one.

It will be interesting to see what it sells for and it's current condition. Anything under £20k will be a bargain.
 
My 'gut' feeling is that a 'proper' rally car should fetch at least £30k. This is a proper car i.e. it can be driven in anger on a forest stage rally. My 'regularity rally car' can be driven on an event like the Historic Monte. It doesn't have the ride height, suspension travel, tank/exhaust protection, rear brakes, lighting etc that a forest rally car needs.

However this car will have had a hard life (I have seen it on a rally) and I know it's had a heavy front-end argument with a tree so it has been repaired. If someone wants to 'stage' rally one of these then it's a very good starting point.

The guy interested in my car wants to do regularity (HERO) events and my car would be perfect for him (which he knows) however the 'estimate' is the draw with this one.

It will be interesting to see what it sells for and it's current condition. Anything under £20k will be a bargain.

Rob, whats the difference between your blue car and other modified cars that makes yours a 'regularity' car?
 

Rob Gaskin

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Rob, whats the difference between your blue car and other modified cars that makes yours a 'regularity' car?

It was built for those events so it has a sump-guard mounted on 'welded-on' brackets, it has an additional fuse-board for tripmeter (diff-sensor), map lights, relayed headlights, 2nd fuel pump. Master 'cut-off' switch, navigators footrest, harnesses and decent seats, safety devices roll-hoop. The engine (2.8) is built for mid-range torque and economy. Ok other cars have this but it has a Quaiffe LSD.

Hugh's rally car will be more 'hard-core' and so I couldn't imagine it being comfortable for say a 3 day event. It will be louder and like your car it will be revving it's nuts off.
 
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It was built for those events so it has a sump-guard mounted on 'welded-on' brackets, it has an additional fuse-board for tripmeter (diff-sensor), map lights, relayed headlights, 2nd fuel pump. Master 'cut-off' switch, navigators footrest, harnesses and decent seats, safety devices roll-hoop. The engine (2.8) is built for mid-range torque and economy. Ok other cars have this but it has a Quaiffe LSD.

Hugh's rally car will be more 'hard-core' and so I couldn't imagine it being comfortable for say a 3 day event. It will be louder and like your car it will be revving it's nuts off.

Thanks for the reply Rob. Not much needed really to convert a car to Regularity spec then.

Why will my car be revving its nuts off?
 
Remind me of your diff ratio - I think it's 4.3. Hugh's rally car is 4.375 which is very low geared for a road journey.

4.44. 500rpm higher than a 3.9 at 70mph. Nothing really, thats why you have a gearbox:D

Ad at VA-Motorsport runs a 4.44 in his all rounder, he says its great on the road, he'd like a 4.9 for motorsport stuff.
 

Rob Gaskin

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4.44. 500rpm higher than a 3.9 at 70mph. Nothing really, thats why you have a gearbox:D

Ad at VA-Motorsport runs a 4.44 in his all rounder, he says its great on the road, he'd like a 4.9 for motorsport stuff.

Ok so 70mph will be nearly 4000 rpm. When you are driving your modern car have a look at the rev counter when you are doing 70. Then change down until it reads nearly 4000 and keep it at that for a while.

My Sam has a 3.7 and it's fine.
 
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